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50cal  #28077 Created December 23, 2012

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PapaFox - December 27, 2012, 6:23 am
Yeah, the AR issue is pretty much it. Other than that I think we're in agreement. (And no, I don't think all gun owners are dumb hicks.)
50cal - December 26, 2012, 9:21 pm
I have already said that the loophole of peer to peer sales need to be addressed and regulated. Only matter we differ is that you want the AR class gone, and I do not. Right?
50cal - December 26, 2012, 9:20 pm
reason people think gun owners are dumb hick who don't know what they are doing or have and idea whats going on in the world subjecting them to heartthrob gut reactions when some ones want to talk gun control. Its quite the opposite. Look at all my post
50cal - December 26, 2012, 9:17 pm
You mistake me as a conservative. I'm quite liberal on most topics and political polices with the exception of fiscal matters and the adherence of the constitution and amendments. We well understand its not on ALL weapon, its the AR class weapon. For some
PapaFox - December 26, 2012, 7:55 pm
And you can still avoid the checks by buying from private dealers, such as at gun shows. http://www.gunshows-usa.com/vermont.shtml And I'm curious why you're so down on the "Brady camp" when conservatives like Ronald Reagan strongly supported the bill.
PapaFox - December 26, 2012, 7:51 pm
Gun laws DO NOT disarm "law abiding citizens." That's a strawman invented by the gun manufacturers to keep from cutting into their profits. Nobody would be taken seriously for suggesting a ban on ALL guns, it'll never happen.
50cal - December 26, 2012, 5:59 pm
Oh, live about an hour outside of VM so I'm aware of their gun laws. Brady camp marks it as a haven with lawless regulation. To some extent its true, you can own what you want HOWEVER if you're buying a weapon you still have to go through a background ck.
50cal - December 26, 2012, 5:56 pm
To what extent? The machine gun was outlawed long ago, because of the same agenda. Now the AR is next. When does it BS disarmament of law abiding citizens stop? I'm for better regulation of sales of firearms however not the a ban.
PapaFox - December 26, 2012, 5:32 pm
It's a quit-giving-the-criminals-all-the-guns-they-want agenda actually. Ineffective laws need to be changed. And the NRA reports the same fact about Vermont's gun laws that "the brady camp" does: http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-laws/vermont.aspx
50cal - December 26, 2012, 5:04 pm
then so be it. Its no differnent then sitting on your b*** playing video games all day, browsing the web for hours on end, watching tv/videos or spending your time at a sports bar... etc... etc...
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50cal  #28075 Created December 23, 2012

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GUN CONTROL? OH YES... - The Theory That Becoming A Victim Is Somehow Morally Superior To Defending Your Family! politics


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vbattaile  #28071 Created December 23, 2012

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foxrecon19d  #28026 Created December 22, 2012

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ThomasTheisman - December 24, 2012, 5:53 pm
Other agents were armed, as stated in the http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/2012-10-09-Lamb-Testimony-FINAL1.pdf The other agents retrieved their M4 submachine guns and other tactical gear from Building B.
ThomasTheisman - December 24, 2012, 5:51 pm
No of course not. Libya is not the safest place on Earth, simply the government has been forced to dis-arm roving militias as a result of this tragedy. There are still other militias which are armed as well, hiding out in different parts of the nation.
foxrecon19d - December 24, 2012, 8:39 am
So what you are contending is 1) the only two service personnel who were armed did absolutely no good in saving lives and 2) Because of gun control, Libya is now the safest country on earth.
ThomasTheisman - December 24, 2012, 12:03 am
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/09/29/libyans-hand-over-weapons/1603089/ Point 2. I Believe I have already answered this in point 3. Point 1. The nature of the government does not matter. Point 5. Which is a response to...?
ThomasTheisman - December 24, 2012, 12:02 am
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2012/09/2012923221126439787.html http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/23/world/africa/libya-militias/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/25/world/africa/libya-militias/index.html Continued in final post on point 3.
ThomasTheisman - December 24, 2012, 12:00 am
Point 3. http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_21615270/libya-orders-militias-operate-under-government-control-or http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidestory/2012/09/2012924105056388919.html Continued in next post.
ThomasTheisman - December 23, 2012, 11:53 pm
Point 4. Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed at the CIA annex by a mortar shell. The machine gun they were firing was caked in blood, suggesting they continued fighting after being hit. Source: Fox News
foxrecon19d - December 23, 2012, 10:01 am
1. What Libyan government? Libya is controlled by Barack Obama's Muslim Brotherhood. 2. Name one Libyan who was disarmed. 3. Name one militia that was disarmed. 4. Name one military service person that was present who WAS armed. 5. SNL is NOT news!
ThomasTheisman - December 23, 2012, 8:31 am
Libya has more guns proportionally than the US.... and since the attack the government has had to implement more controls, to disarm roaming militias. And the military, the good guys- they did have guns. This is a perfect argument for gun control.
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crankyhead - December 22, 2012, 4:10 pm
Is it all that surprising JRock, considering VB's compared you to Hitler, and me to Stalin, on more than one occasion?
Jrock - December 22, 2012, 3:59 pm
You just compared the poor to animals. Nice!
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