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PapaFox - December 19, 2012, 7:27 am,
Too right.
OTC - September 5, 2013, 9:10 pm,
Lets not forget these two idiots that agreed with canky, or is it canky agreeing with himself with his other two accounts?
fauxnews - December 19, 2012, 9:54 am,
Reactionary Neo-cons get rid of mental healthcare but they refuse to get rid of dangerous a**ault-style guns. Shouldn't this be the opposite? Great poster by the way, mate. 5 stars. :)
OTC - August 28, 2013, 4:37 pm,
So faux, a s s a u l t-style guns are dangerous and non a s s a u l t- style guns aren't? Which liberal news outlet do you listen too?
foxrecon19d - December 19, 2012, 11:54 am,
This poster says that you will say any lie to push your anti-2nd Amendment agenda. The attack occured at the MOB station. The ONLY one who was armed was your buddy, the shooter. You insult my dead brothers and sisters with your lie that they were armed.
crankyhead - December 19, 2012, 5:05 pm,
I'm PRO-2nd amendment foxrecon, as is any other person who wants the language in the second amendment to be followed.
crankyhead - December 19, 2012, 5:06 pm,
In fact, one could successfully argue that your strict adherence to ignoring portions of the language in the 2nd amendment, makes you the owner of the 'ANTI-2nd amendment' position.
foxrecon19d - December 19, 2012, 12:13 pm,
To lie and say that the attacker was "surrounded by soldiers carrying a**ault rifles" but yet the soldiers did not have the skills to defend themselves is the highest form of brainwashed ignorance and disrespect to the soldiers who died WEAPONLESS!
crankyhead - December 19, 2012, 5:01 pm,
Read the poster again fox. I said the opposite of what you think I did. Again. It clearly says that the soldiers had the necessary training to use their weapons. You colossal dimbulb.
foxrecon19d - December 19, 2012, 5:32 pm,
Read YOUR poster again, sycophant. You claim we were armed. What weapons did we possess. TELL ME! WHAT WEAPONS DID OUR FALLEN SOLDIERS POSSESS? You are truly a sack of ****.
crankyhead - December 19, 2012, 5:48 pm,
You're confused fox. I'm not arguing that this incident, wasn't a tragedy. Nor am I siding with the shooter. The argument is a simple one. Of the 1100 or so US military bases that exist, Fort Hood is one of the largest. Clearly, there wouldn't be...
crankyhead - December 19, 2012, 5:51 pm,
...anything wrong with believing that there are armed soldiers around? Honestly, the population at Fort Hood is what, 50,000?
foxrecon19d - December 19, 2012, 5:58 pm,
Justify your poster. NAME...ONE...SOLDIER..WHO...WAS...ARMED.
crankyhead - December 19, 2012, 6:02 pm,
Justification: NRA types want to believe that more guns = more safety.
foxrecon19d - December 19, 2012, 6:16 pm,
Ahhhhh... so now the truth comes out. Obama's dedicated dikk sucker is echoing his hatred for the NRA and is willing to spit on fallen American soldiers to prove his undying loyalty
Mooooooooooooooooooo - December 19, 2012, 7:33 pm,  
I know you don't visit the forum much fox, But Arnnatz just got banned for hurling insults....Maybe a good time to tone it down. You can say all the same things without the name calling.
foxrecon19d - December 19, 2012, 8:08 pm,
In order to spread his agenda, crankyhead has willingly adopted a blatant lie which literally spits on the sacrifice of our UNARMED soldiers. I will not let this SOS get away with denegrating their memory.
crankyhead - December 19, 2012, 8:10 pm,
Oh for fox sakes. How many times I have to say it?
foxrecon19d - December 19, 2012, 12:16 pm,
The attacker was not "surrounded" by armed soldiers. The only one who was armed was the attacker. If the soldiers were armed, we wouldn't be having this discussion. The fact remains, the soldiers were WEAPONLESS! You shame yourself with your blatant lies
crankyhead - December 19, 2012, 5:07 pm,
He was on a military base. Ergo, he was surrounded by soldiers. In the same way that if you go to a library, you are surrounded by books.
foxrecon19d - December 19, 2012, 5:28 pm,
You said he was surrounded by soldiers armed with a**ault rifles, liar. You said the soldiers who died were armed with a**ault rifles. Read your poster, sycophant! Those soldiers died WEAPONLESS! YOU LIE TO PUSH YOUR AGENDA!
crankyhead - December 19, 2012, 5:34 pm,
Oh for fox sakes, I don't have an agenda. What I have is a conscience.
foxrecon19d - December 19, 2012, 5:41 pm,
No. You do not have a conscience. Whst you have is a talking point push your stupidity. You said my brothers and sisters were armed when they died. Where is your proof,sycophant?
foxrecon19d - December 19, 2012, 5:52 pm,
According to YOU, being on a military base equalls he was surrounded by heavily armed soldiers. According to you, he killed heavily armef soldiers. You sack of ****. Those soldiers were WEAPONLESS!
crankyhead - December 19, 2012, 5:59 pm,
Your problem is that your counter argument is hinged on people believing that there are no guns, or soldiers, or soldiers with guns, on an American military base located in Texas. (Think of Rick Perry and that chromed six shooter. "YeeHaw!")
foxrecon19d - December 19, 2012, 6:21 pm,
...heh...heh...heh...thanks for exposing how you celebrate the deaths of unarmed soldiers. Enjoy your attention
foxrecon19d - December 19, 2012, 12:25 pm,
You are one of those who are for massive gun control, but lying and denegrating the memory of our brothers and sisters to push your agenda should bring you shame. We are less than 1% of America. I knew some of those whose memory and sacrifice you spit on
crankyhead - December 19, 2012, 5:09 pm,
foxrecon, for the fourth or fifth time now, I'm not against gun ownership. I don't want to disarm law abiding citizens. I'm not interested in making weapons illegal. What I do want, is for crazy people to not kill kids. Are we clear, corporal?
foxrecon19d - December 19, 2012, 5:22 pm,
You said that armed and trained soldiers do not have the ability to defend themselves. You said my brothers and sisters who died were armed and able to defend themselves. YOU LIED! Are we clear,LIAR?
crankyhead - December 19, 2012, 5:25 pm,
Hey SFB, despite your continued protests against reality, the poster clearly says the opposite of what you think it does. Let me guess, that's the posters fault, right? No? Maybe it's President Obama's fault?
simplegenius - December 19, 2012, 2:20 pm,
I believe that the situation with the soldiers checking in to leave is still a time when they are to carry no ammo. that is why the shooter wasn't stopped until base security arrived who carry loaded weapons. the soldiers had training just no ammo.
simplegenius - December 19, 2012, 2:21 pm,
course, some of the closer soldiers behind the shooter should have relied on their hand to hand combat and should've tried to take him out from behind, but i wouldn't know what I would do in that situation either.
foxrecon19d - December 19, 2012, 5:17 pm,
Your pathetic attempts at back tracking shames you even more. Those soldiers died WEAPONLESS! The only thing you are doing is justifying the murder of those soldiers.
foxrecon19d - December 19, 2012, 5:55 pm,
The soldiers were WEAPONLESS! A condition that crankyhead likes those who might disagree with hos great Obamassiah.
foxrecon19d - December 19, 2012, 6:03 pm,
According to you, the shooter was surrounded by armed soldiers. Name one. Name just one armed soldier. Don't backtrack. Don't repeat any of your stupid talking points. Just name one fallen soldier who was armed
foxrecon19d - December 19, 2012, 6:08 pm,
Still waiting, ***klick. Name one of our fallrn brothers or sisters that died with a weapon. Don't backtrack, Obama worshipper! You said wr were armed! NAME ONE , OBAMA. WORSHIPPER!
crankyhead - December 19, 2012, 6:10 pm,
You'll be waiting a while fox.
foxrecon19d - December 19, 2012, 6:26 pm,
No, I won't. NOT SINCE YOU JUST ADMITTED THAT YOU ARE A PATHETIC LIAR! "Surrounded by armed soldiers..." That was your arguement. NAME ONE, LIAR!
crankyhead - December 19, 2012, 8:14 pm,
Actually, you're still waiting.
Texmil - December 19, 2012, 10:54 pm,
Crankyhead and Simple: 19D is correct. I recently served at Hood (Sr Off). Soldiers do not carry weapons or ammo stateside. Only ones who do are MPs. As for close combat, most Soldiers are not combat arms, nor do they receive a lot of that training.
crankyhead - December 20, 2012, 7:59 am,
Tex, on a base with 50-60 thousand soldiers, how many MP's do you suppose are floating around?
fauxnews - December 20, 2012, 1:37 pm,
@Cranky-Mate, the cognitive dissonance attracted by this thread is proof enough that your poster made the point it was making--That "MORE guns" is an idiotic, mean solution to offer America in light of this tragedy. Less guns, more regulation is the key
foxrecon19d - December 21, 2012, 7:12 am,
This idiot is trying to say that EVERYONE was armed with a**ault weapons. Again, only ONE person was armed. That was the gunman. The only thing this poster proves is your willingness to cling to a blatant LIE to force your agenda.
StoneTools - August 30, 2013, 3:01 pm,
Actually, the situation emphasized the need for more weapons. Had the soldiers been armed, hasan would have fallen in a hail of bullets instead of the unarmed soldiers.
Texmil - December 19, 2012, 10:58 pm,
The poster is just factually wrong. If Soldiers had weapons, guarantee fewer would have died. I could say more about my last position there, but the point would be moot.
fauxnews - December 20, 2012, 1:36 pm,
@Texmil-That's idiotic mate. If a well armed military base(well armed compared to most public locatons) can get sh** up like that, the problem certainly isn't MORE guns.The problem is a failing mental healthcare system and failure to monitor wackos w/guns
Texmil - December 20, 2012, 7:00 pm,
Faux- Unless you are training, weapons are stored in an arms room. I am not advocating Soldiers on base carrying loaded weapons all the time. Frankly, I'm surprised we didn't have more problems in Iraq than we did.
Texmil - December 20, 2012, 7:03 pm,
I agree the problem is monitoring wackos with guns and psych healthcare. My last job in the Army, I led an organization that monitored a lot of Soldiers with mental issues. I half expected someone to come in my office with a gun. I never carried one.
Texmil - December 20, 2012, 6:58 pm,
Cranky- Most the patrolling MPs are now contract police, not even military. MPs on patrol are the only ones armed. It's a little more than any small city of the same size, as they patrol housing areas and ranges.
arnnatz - January 16, 2013, 5:20 pm,
Cranky claims this poster doesn't exist all of a sudden
arnnatz - January 16, 2013, 5:29 pm,
I'm expecting the deafening sound of crickets now.
crankyhead - January 16, 2013, 7:53 pm,
I'm hoping you can point out where it says 'heavily armed'.
arnnatz - January 16, 2013, 8:17 pm,
OK, just for the sake of argument, let's leave off heavily. Your claim was still that he was "surrounded by soldiers carrying a**ault rifles" - can you post a link to a picture where it shows anyone who is armed around him before he was arrested?
arnnatz - January 16, 2013, 8:35 pm,
no? How about an article, other than Daily KOS, which says he was surrounded by soldiers who were armed with a**ault rifles? Can you try that? Sorry, cranky, but your poster is full of crap. Why won't you just admit that you screwed up and tell Fox
arnnatz - January 16, 2013, 8:35 pm,
that he was correct?
arnnatz - January 16, 2013, 8:38 pm,
If you look at this headline and the accompanying article:
arnnatz - January 16, 2013, 8:38 pm,
You will see that he was carrying an AK47 and a knife, yet he was heavily armed.
arnnatz - January 16, 2013, 8:40 pm,
Even the brits use the same terminology:
arnnatz - January 17, 2013, 8:02 pm,
Still waiting for the names of the armed soldiers who surrounded nidal while he killed the soldiers, crankypants.
arnnatz - January 17, 2013, 8:12 pm,
crickets. Hey cranky, where's the name or picture of the soldiers armed with a**ault rifles surrounding nidal?
crankyhead - January 18, 2013, 8:40 am,
Is it your a**ertion that Fort Hood is a convenience store?
fauxnews - January 18, 2013, 9:30 am,
@crankymate..not to disappoint you, bloke, but it might be a bit before Arnnutz responds. I think he was just banned again for IP socking (to get around his latest ban). P.S. Military bases are always well-armed. That why they dont call them peace bases
StoneTools - August 30, 2013, 3:04 pm,
The reason they are called military bases has nothing to do with how well armed or unarmed they are. It's because the people who work on the base are MILITARY.
StoneTools - July 21, 2013, 1:05 pm,
Now crankyhead is claiming that this poster says "were present" as opposed to "were surrounded by" - suffering from a dose of cognitive dissonance?
crankyhead - July 21, 2013, 1:55 pm,
In order to be surrounded by soldiers, the soldiers must be present, no? Also, you're not using the term 'cognitive dissonance' properly here, no offense.
crankyhead - July 21, 2013, 2:00 pm,
Also, please point out where in this poster I stated that heavily armed soldiers were killed.
StoneTools - August 30, 2013, 2:29 pm,
nope, heavily armed was a diversion, but I lost track of who did it first. So, we are back on the a**ault rifle wording. I don't recall anything in the news saying that todd had an a**ault rifle. Can you point out a URL for me that shows that?
OTC - August 27, 2013, 1:44 pm,
A s s a u l t rifles or any military weapon are kept locked up in an armory, Any armed soldiers are located at base entrances as guards, or at the rifle range for qualification. Other than that, soldiers do not carry weapons with them on bases and
crankyhead - August 27, 2013, 1:47 pm,
Thank you for admitting that there are firearms on military bases. I was starting to worry about your sanity there for a minute, OTC.
OTC - August 27, 2013, 1:52 pm,
Weapons in an armory does not qualify as armed soldiers with a s s a u l t rifles when they had not been issued said weapons. Since you have not admitted to your poster being BS, we can guess your sanity
crankyhead - August 27, 2013, 2:22 pm,
Nor does it exclude the possibility. Again, thanks for conceding there are weapons present on military bases, finally.
OTC - August 27, 2013, 4:28 pm,
Keep crawfishin' canky, that's not what your poster states, you infer the soldiers were 'carrying' a$$ault rifles, not that there were weapons on or off the base. By your logic, if there is a fire station somewhere in town, your house would never burn
StoneTools - August 27, 2013, 4:37 pm,
or that your house was surrounded by fire trucks
crankyhead - August 28, 2013, 11:49 am,
I'm not responsible, for what you infer. I'm only responsible for what I said.
OTC - August 27, 2013, 4:50 pm,
Or heavily hosed firemen
crankyhead - August 28, 2013, 11:50 am,
No, my logic would dictate that the firehouse itself, would be the least likely place in town, to burn.
crankyhead - August 28, 2013, 11:51 am,
That being said, I'm not going to exclude the possibility that the firehouse might burn down.
StoneTools - August 27, 2013, 4:59 pm,
depends, are they a**ault hoses?
OTC - August 27, 2013, 4:48 pm,
By the way, if by chance the soldiers had been issued their weapons, they would NOT have been issued the ammo during the processing phase, & if by chance they had ammo, there wouldn't have been much left of Hasan to identify, so more guns is the answer
crankyhead - August 28, 2013, 11:52 am,
So, OTC, you'd prefer if Hasan has been killed, instead of captured?
StoneTools - August 28, 2013, 1:47 pm,
so, cranky, you would prefer if Hasan had been let go and issued a medal for his "bravery" in killing unarmed men and women?
OTC - August 29, 2013, 11:22 pm,
You missed the point as usual, if the soldiers had rifles as you faslely claim, with a standard 30rd capacity, there would have been a potential of over 1,200rds fiired at the shooters. Of course, 2 soldiers tried to rush Hasan, 1 with a chair in hand, &
OTC - August 29, 2013, 11:26 pm,
Were killed. So you think they were to stupid to use the rifles they were 'carrying' ? Why do you think no s h o t s were returned? Are you trying to say they were cowards & dropped the rifles and ran?
OTC - August 29, 2013, 11:29 pm,
And as far as your typical diversion, yes, I'd rather the terrorist was killed than our soldiers. That's what we trained to do, make the enemy die for their country and beliefs
crankyhead - August 30, 2013, 1:36 pm,
You're the fking @$$clown who suggested I want to give him a medal for bravery, don't talk to me about diversions. P.S. Nadal Hasan was born in Virginia. He is American.
StoneTools - August 30, 2013, 2:26 pm,
I thought about reporting the abusive name calling, but thought better since I can keep watching you grow more and more frustrated by your inability to defend your own stupidity.
StoneTools - August 30, 2013, 2:28 pm,
I didn't suggest anything. You need to learn the difference between declaratory and interrogatory sentences. Ask your english as a second language teach for clarification.
StoneTools - August 30, 2013, 2:28 pm,
crankyhead - August 30, 2013, 1:32 pm,
No sh**s returned huh? I guess Hasan gets to spend the rest of his life in a wheelchair because of all the harsh vibes you keep sending him then, right?
OTC - September 2, 2013, 3:01 pm,
Let's see, "no sh0ts were returned" in the CONTEXT of soldiers "carrying" rifles, and your one brain cell sees that no "one" fired at all? You know, those nasty facts that liberals love to twist
crankyhead - September 3, 2013, 1:55 pm,
They are your words OTC. Don't get upset with me because you wrote them.
StoneTools - August 28, 2013, 6:48 pm,
Now you have something else to whine about cranky, Hasan was found guilty and sentenced to death. That should put you in a tizzie for sure.
crankyhead - August 29, 2013, 1:16 pm,
Don't get your panties in a knot little girl, but as I just told OTC, I don't respect people who feel the need to use violence.
OTC - August 27, 2013, 5:41 pm,
A$$ault hoses with no water
OTC - August 30, 2013, 2:40 pm,
Being born in America doesn't exempt one from being a terrorist, Bill Ayers and the uni-bomber come to mind. With that said, your poster a**erts Hasan was 'surrounded' by soldiers "carrying" a$$ault rifles. Which one of those rifles returned fire, hmmm?
crankyhead - August 30, 2013, 5:29 pm,
Does the poster a**ert that the a**ault rifles returned fire OTC, or are you just trying to put words in my mouth again? Hmmmmm... predictable one trick pony, is predictable.
crankyhead - August 30, 2013, 5:35 pm,
I never said that being born American exempts someone from being a terrorist. That would be a fallacy of composition. Still want to know what it is put Hasan in the wheelchair for life though, seeing as how you're still a**erting noone returned fire.
OTC - August 31, 2013, 6:28 pm,
Then why do you state Hasan was born in Virginia and an American? Was that a feeble attempt to make some point?
crankyhead - September 1, 2013, 12:13 pm,
The reason I pointed out that Hasan was an American is because earlier you said that your training involved learning how to make the other guy die for his country. You're from the same country. Still wondering how he ended up in a wheelchair for life...
crankyhead - September 1, 2013, 12:14 pm,
...though, considering you still haven't amended your earlier a**ertion that nobody returned fire. Maybe it was the Holy Spirit that put the bullet in his spine?
StoneTools - September 4, 2013, 3:10 pm,
Like a good little liberal, you can finish reading a complete sentence. OTC said die for their country or belief. You couldn't make it all the way to period could you crankypants? See comment for complete context: #58804
OTC - August 30, 2013, 3:13 pm,
Had they been armed, Hasan wouldn't have attempted the attack. And the ones that returned fire, were they civilians, or military?
crankyhead - August 30, 2013, 5:32 pm,
You can't say that with any degree of certainty. That's pure speculation.
OTC - August 31, 2013, 6:32 pm,
How many mass shootings have been where the majority or all the victims were armed? How many mass shootings have there been where the victims were unarmed? No degree of any certainty?
crankyhead - September 1, 2013, 12:11 pm,
Depends on what your definition of 'mass shootings' would be, OTC. I can think of several instances where plenty of armed people died fighting.
OTC - August 30, 2013, 3:16 pm,
During my time on military bases, I seldom carried an a$$ault rifle except when it was time to clean it or qualify at the shooting range.
crankyhead - August 30, 2013, 5:27 pm,
Thank you for using the word 'seldom', as that word is in no way synonymous with the word 'never'.
OTC - August 31, 2013, 6:41 pm,
Being part of a rapid deployment group with the Fleet Marine Force, we did not have weapons while waiting to load up because some weapons are cumbersome like the M60 or M249 and are not very practical to carry on a bus.
crankyhead - September 1, 2013, 12:07 pm,
OTC - August 31, 2013, 6:50 pm,
Your poster states "This guy" was "surrounded" by "soldiers" "carrying" "RIFLES" Which soldier carrying a rifle returned fire inside the building? I'll give you a clue, soldiers = military, ergo, civilian police w/ pistols is not the answer
OTC - September 1, 2013, 7:44 pm,
Still waiting for you to answer the question as to why no one "carrying" a rifle returned fire. And you missed the part about 'beliefs', not just country.
crankyhead - September 1, 2013, 7:46 pm,
you want the fact that you said 'beliefs', to erase the fact that you also said 'country'. Not gonna happen. Still waiting on you to tell us how it is that Hasan got sh** in the back and has to spend the rest of his life in a wheelchair, considering...
crankyhead - September 1, 2013, 7:48 pm,
...that you still haven't retracted your erroneous a**ertion that nobody returned fire. Unless of course this is just another one of your 'The bible ain't supposed to make sense, dammit!' moments.
OTC - September 1, 2013, 8:05 pm,
So which comment did I say no one returned fire?
OTC - September 1, 2013, 7:50 pm,
Still waiting for you to tell us why no one "carrying" a rifle did not return fire, considering 2 soldiers rushed Hasan unarmed to try and save fellow soldiers.
crankyhead - September 1, 2013, 8:06 pm,
OTC... You said that no-one returned fire. Not me. I'm still wondering how it is you think he ended up with a bullet in his spine, considering you still maintain that nobody sh** him.
crankyhead - September 1, 2013, 8:08 pm,
Comment #58803, in case you've conveniently forgotten yet another ridiculous claim that you don't want to defend.
crankyhead - September 1, 2013, 8:11 pm,
That's hilarious. I was typing this comment as you were typing the comment asking me to point out which comment we were discussing. Looks like the predictable one trick pony is actually a predictable one trick pony, after all. =)
OTC - September 3, 2013, 7:50 pm,
Show me where I said no 'one' returned fire
StoneTools - September 4, 2013, 8:54 am,
Double D to a tool like cranky is Distortion and Distraction. He can't use logic or truth in a discussion, so he uses one or other of the D in hopes of getting people to forget what the original discussion was.
StoneTools - September 4, 2013, 8:56 am,
wow, that made no sense. I'll try again: Double D to cranky isn't a ***b circumference, but is Distortion and Distraction ...
OTC - September 4, 2013, 11:34 am,
Funny how he always wants us to provide facts and be precise, but he dosen't have to.
OTC - September 3, 2013, 7:54 pm,
Your poster states more guns are not the solution, so then why is it civilian police with more guns stopped the shooter? Seems more guns is the solution, or maybe you think they talked him into a wheelchair for life?
crankyhead - September 4, 2013, 1:53 pm,
For the last time OTC, I'm not the guy who as yet hasnèt retracted the a**ertion that there nobody returned fire. That would be you. I know what put Hasan in a wheelchair. The bullet in his spine. Which was fired from Sgt Todd's gun. Y'know, facts?
OTC - September 4, 2013, 2:04 pm,
Yeah, you know the fact that I have asked which soldier or soldiers "carrying" rifles returned fire. Seems you can only divert to a civilian cop, do you not understand the question? Do I need to dumb it down for you?
crankyhead - September 4, 2013, 2:08 pm,
Actually, yes. Dumb it down some more and show me where it says in the poster, that the soldiers returned fire.
OTC - September 4, 2013, 2:06 pm,
But thanks for admitting that more guns was the solution to ending the rampage. That debunks the last part of your poster that more guns are not the solution. Now if you can just focus on the soldiers "carrying" rifles and not the police carrying pistols.
crankyhead - September 4, 2013, 2:10 pm,
While you're at it, please show me where I said 'more guns' was the solution.
OTC - September 4, 2013, 2:28 pm,
While you're at it, try to keep up. Comment 59141. So, no guns were present at the beginning of the shooting, but when more guns came to the scene, the shooting ended as you said by a bullet in his spine, i.e., more guns was the solution.
crankyhead - September 4, 2013, 2:31 pm,
No. A well trained police officer was the solution. Not some vigilante citizen. Clear?
OTC - September 4, 2013, 2:36 pm,
So tell us why well trained military soldiers wasn't the solution
crankyhead - September 4, 2013, 2:39 pm,
When did I say that?
OTC - September 4, 2013, 2:14 pm,
See how liberalism is a mental disease, he is arguing his own argument lol. I never said nobody returned fire, I asked why no sh**s were returned in the context of military soldiers carrying rifles, not civilian police carrying pistols
crankyhead - September 4, 2013, 2:24 pm,
Actually, the facts show that you said that exact thing, OTC. Comment # 58803. Try remembering the things you say, you'll find it's easier to win debates, if you are not constantly contradicting yourself.
OTC - September 4, 2013, 2:33 pm,
Again, in the CONTEXT of soldiers "carrying" rifles I said no sh0ts were returned. I NEVER said nobody ever returned fire, that's you a$sumption for diverting the question that you apparently can't or won't answer. Clear enough?
crankyhead - September 4, 2013, 2:39 pm,
Well it's nice of you to back pedal your statement like that, OTC. Usually you just keep digging the hole.
OTC - September 4, 2013, 2:43 pm,
Back pedaled nothing, I stated that earlier, were not paying attention?
crankyhead - September 4, 2013, 2:45 pm,
#58803 says the opposite of #59168. You made both comments. That's called a back pedal. Clear enough?
crankyhead - September 4, 2013, 2:47 pm,
Please re-read the last sentence in comment #59159. I'm getting awfully bored, constantly having to repeat myself to you OTC.
OTC - September 4, 2013, 4:45 pm,
If you are so freaking bored, why not answer the question as to why soldiers carrying rifles did not return fire so we can move on? Now you are trying to insinuate that soldiers in battle don't win until trained police officers show up with pistols?
OTC - September 4, 2013, 2:50 pm,
Wow, you're really reaching or just not understanding, or maybe your french to english translation software is showing you something different?
crankyhead - September 4, 2013, 2:59 pm,
Why are you referencing something I said to ST, one time, two weeks ago?
StoneTools - September 4, 2013, 3:01 pm,
I'll answer that for you OTC, it's because CrankyHead is an idiot who parrots what others say and is incapable of independent thought. Now, if you want to engage crankyhead in a discussion, change the topic to something he can understand, like crayons and
StoneTools - September 4, 2013, 3:01 pm,
coloring books
crankyhead - September 4, 2013, 3:06 pm,
I'm colorblind, unfortunately. That being said, I'm sure ST would be happy to discuss which color crayon is his favorite flavor with you though.
StoneTools - September 4, 2013, 3:11 pm,
You simply are not capable of a single original thought are you cranky? UMadYet?
StoneTools - September 4, 2013, 3:17 pm,
You are not only colorblind, but ignorant, but that doesn't stop you from using infantile arguments or making false a**ertions like your hasan poster. Thought you could divert from that one didn't you? Until you admit that your stupid poster was factually
StoneTools - September 4, 2013, 3:17 pm,
incorrect, I will keep hounding you about it.
crankyhead - September 4, 2013, 3:19 pm,
Mad? LOL. I'm the reasonable, intelligent, non-astroturfing member here at politifake, in case you've forgotten.
crankyhead - September 4, 2013, 3:20 pm,
Hound away. Use as many accounts as you feel you need to.
StoneTools - September 4, 2013, 3:21 pm,
Excuse me? Are you claiming I have more than one account? That's pretty low even for the likes of you cranky.
crankyhead - September 4, 2013, 3:22 pm,
Is that what I said?
StoneTools - September 4, 2013, 3:28 pm,
Tell you what cranky, come right out and directly accuse me of multiple accounts.
StoneTools - September 4, 2013, 3:31 pm,
Yeah, I knew you didn't have a sack.
crankyhead - September 5, 2013, 3:23 pm,
Actually, I'd rather just allude to it, and then watch you rant and rave like a four year old, protesting against the accusation for two weeks.
crankyhead - September 5, 2013, 3:24 pm,
Yeah, I knew the only reason you come to politifake is your obsession with other dude's sacks.
StoneTools - September 5, 2013, 3:33 pm,
it's typical for a liberal to cower when confronted, isn't it nancy?
StoneTools - September 5, 2013, 3:34 pm,
the only reason you're afraid to come out and say it is because you know, like your poster, that it's just bull****
crankyhead - September 5, 2013, 3:34 pm,
I don't know anything about cowering behind multiple aliases. Why don't you tell us all about it?
JGalt - September 6, 2013, 6:41 am,
Says the reasonable, intelligent, non-astroturfing member troll who chooses an avatar wearing a tin foil Viking helmet, while projecting and putting exaggerations in other people's mouths for them.
OTC - September 4, 2013, 4:51 pm,
Or maybe you just have a problem with subject matter, or context, or english in general? One sentence in the middle of a paragraph gets cherry picked to a subject not related to the context, which is easy to understand with the sentences before & after it
StoneTools - September 5, 2013, 12:22 am,
Cranky, like all liberals on this site also get confused with commas, they seem to think a comma is equivalent to a period. Though in cranky's case, his period comes every 28 days.
crankyhead - September 5, 2013, 3:24 pm,
Fun times, huh OTC?
OTC - September 4, 2013, 4:55 pm,
peut-être que je devrais utiliser quelque chose que vous comprenez?
crankyhead - September 5, 2013, 3:20 pm,
English, French, Spanish, German, Italian or Russian. Your choice.
StoneTools - September 5, 2013, 3:34 pm,
So, cranky, what language do you actually speak in your homeland of make****upistan?
crankyhead - September 5, 2013, 3:36 pm,
Oh lookie... the bigoted xenophobe wants to insult my country again, instead of actually contributing something to a conversation. So many one trick ponies round these parts....
StoneTools - September 5, 2013, 3:38 pm,
tell me the last time you contributed anything but distractions and distortions to any conversation. Oh, by the way, what's the name of the guy with the a**ault rifle that surrounded hasan?
crankyhead - September 5, 2013, 4:22 pm,
No offense ST, but you need more than one person, to surround a second person. Complex stuff, I know.
StoneTools - September 5, 2013, 5:08 pm,
yup, and that's why you offered up the name of guy with a pistol. Ready to admit your poster is bull**** yet?
OTC - September 5, 2013, 5:18 pm,
Liberal mental disease, arguing with himself. You are the one that stated Hasan was 'surrounded' but only give the name of one person and then argue it takes more than one person to surround someone. Complicated, I know
StoneTools - September 5, 2013, 3:52 pm,
really? I mention your real homeland and that's offensive to you?
crankyhead - September 5, 2013, 4:24 pm,
Oh, the name of my country is make-$hit-up-istan, is it, you bigoted xenophobe?
StoneTools - September 5, 2013, 5:06 pm,
Oh, you claim now that you don't come from there? Next thing you will probably do to cower is claim you are from someplace else like Canada or something. Face facts, your posters and ranting comments are pure and simple make believe
crankyhead - September 5, 2013, 9:19 pm,
I am from Canada, ST. What of it? Also, if you're going to start dangling your participles, at least make sure that your modifying clauses, modify the subject, and not just the closest noun.
crankyhead - September 5, 2013, 9:19 pm,
P.S. You're welcome.
StoneTools - September 6, 2013, 12:53 am,
P.S. You're welcome
crankyhead - September 6, 2013, 3:28 pm,
ST, that's not how you spell 'set'. If you had a set, you'd probably already know that. You're welcome.
StoneTools - September 6, 2013, 4:09 pm,
come on cranky, look on the medicine box that you have used yet.**
crankyhead - September 6, 2013, 4:26 pm,
I don't go to websites you post here anymore ST. Lesson learned.
StoneTools - September 6, 2013, 5:27 pm,
Nice cop out, you asked me for a link in the forums because you were either too ignorant to find it yourself or couldn't figure out how to do an internet search, and now you make that claim. tsk tsk cranky, I really do pity you.
crankyhead - September 6, 2013, 9:43 pm,
So, because I don't want to look at your animal p*** ph**os, I'm copping out of the conversation? Nice try, putz.
StoneTools - September 7, 2013, 9:25 am,
nice try with distortion, but you're a liberal, so make false claims. If it had animals, you probably went to your favorite *** education site instead.
StoneTools - September 6, 2013, 12:53 am,
see, i predicted you would claim a different homeland from your real one.
crankyhead - September 6, 2013, 3:32 pm,
Just blatantly making more statements that fly in the face of the facts huh? What a good little republican you are. Painfully stupid, of course, but a good little bigoted xenophobic republican nontheless.
OTC - September 5, 2013, 3:39 pm,
I chose engliah, but you can't seem to answer a simple question without diversion and distraction to avoid answering
crankyhead - September 5, 2013, 4:27 pm,
Est-c'que t'es sûr?
OTC - September 5, 2013, 5:10 pm,
I'm pretty sure your poster does not state surrounded by police officers which you allude to. Were the police surrounding Hasan when the shooting started, no? Then why is that all you poiint to? Officer kim stated sdiers were running away, is that your
StoneTools - September 5, 2013, 5:20 pm,
I'll answer that for cranky "I admit, I'm full of crap and my alcoholism and crack cocaine addiction has fogged my mind. I can't tell fantasy from reality anymore"
crankyhead - September 5, 2013, 9:12 pm,
ST, stop projecting.
StoneTools - September 6, 2013, 12:51 am,
sorry, did I misquote you? I don't think so.
JGalt - September 6, 2013, 6:21 am,
Says the master of projection and the putting of words in other people's mouths...
crankyhead - September 6, 2013, 3:18 pm,
I learned from one of the best there is, JG. =) (P.S. That's a compliment, sort of.)
OTC - September 5, 2013, 5:12 pm,
Idea of well trained to use a$sault rifles? Maybe I should slow it down for you?
crankyhead - September 5, 2013, 9:11 pm,
Sure. Slow it down some more, OTC.
OTC - September 5, 2013, 9:14 pm,
So. Canky, the 'subject' of your poster is about 'soldiers' surrounding Hasan (with me so far, or am I going too fast?). You claim they were 'carrying' a$sault rifles (stlll with me?) and that they were 'trained' to use these weapons (try to keep up now)
crankyhead - September 5, 2013, 9:22 pm,
The poster doesn't state that the civilian police were carrying rifles OTC. Geez.
StoneTools - September 6, 2013, 12:50 am,
but it does state that hasan was surrounded by soldiers with a**ault weapons. Who were they and why was there no mention of them in any news release?
crankyhead - September 5, 2013, 9:24 pm,
Who's this Canky guy you keep talking about? =)
OTC - September 5, 2013, 9:19 pm,
Civilian police were not there when the shooting started, nor are they military, so names of police officers with pistols are irrelevant. Now, why were there no sh0ts returned by the soldiers who were carrying rifles and surrounding the shooter?
OTC - September 5, 2013, 9:24 pm,
Nor does the poster state anything about police, yet you named a police officer as heavily armed and not any soldier, guess I went too fast
crankyhead - September 5, 2013, 9:28 pm,
Then why do you keep bringing up the police?
OTC - September 6, 2013, 11:05 am,
I keep asking about the soldiers with rifles, which is followed by your response to the police. Simple I know, but try to keep up.
crankyhead - September 6, 2013, 3:34 pm,
Why won't you answer any of my questions OTC? You understand that a dialogue is different from a soliloquy, yes?
StoneTools - September 6, 2013, 4:08 pm,
why won't you answer my question cranky? Where are the names of the soldiers armed with a**ault rifles that surrounded hasan while he murdered them?
crankyhead - September 6, 2013, 4:25 pm,
Already answered that question ST.
StoneTools - September 6, 2013, 5:25 pm,
really, what was the comment number? I can't seem to find that one.
crankyhead - September 6, 2013, 9:41 pm,
Who said it was a comment?
StoneTools - September 7, 2013, 9:23 am,
OK, point out where you answered that question.
OTC - September 5, 2013, 9:27 pm,
You remind me of a canker sore hence canky = crankyhead for short
crankyhead - September 5, 2013, 9:31 pm,
Gotcha. Must suck having cankers and having to explain to women you meet that no, you don't have herpes in your mouth, just poor hygiene. My condolences. =)
OTC - September 6, 2013, 11:06 am,
So you think I'm a lesbian? I was thinking more of the painful crap that comes from your mouth
StoneTools - September 6, 2013, 12:31 pm,
The stuff from cranky's mouth is called diarrhea
crankyhead - September 6, 2013, 3:16 pm,
No, I don't think you're a lesbian, OTC. That would imply that at least some women would enjoy your company.
OTC - September 6, 2013, 8:49 pm,
Then why talk about women I meet? You a$sume I'm a man? And why haven't you answered my question yet ask me to answer yours? Oh yeah, you demand facts from us but can't sight any facts about your statements. hypocrisy much?
crankyhead - September 6, 2013, 9:45 pm,
Judging by the amount of whinyness in this last comment of yours OTC, I'm starting to believe that maybe you are a woman. Sorry for a**uming you had balls. That was my bad.
StoneTools - September 7, 2013, 9:26 am,
Notice the distraction from the question? Cranky is panicking because he's been backed into a corner and doesn't know how to get out of it. All it takes is to man up, but he's not capable of it.
crankyhead - September 7, 2013, 6:10 pm,
Perhaps I'm merely providing you both an opportunity to vocalize your own hypocrisy, when it comes to answering pointed questions?
OTC - September 7, 2013, 5:38 pm,
Yeah, you must feel bad knowing a woman has a bigger sack than you, still can't answer the question huh? You have to feel sorry if canky has any kids, being indoctrinated with all that stupidity.
crankyhead - September 7, 2013, 6:12 pm,
Doesn't bother me at all OTC, I'm not a ***ist. Nice to see that you're now starting to shift your own focus away from the conversation, and onto my family instead. So many one trick ponies... we're gonna need a bigger tent. =)
OTC - September 7, 2013, 6:58 pm,
Keep stalling. Its expected
crankyhead - September 8, 2013, 2:49 pm,
Of course YOU expect it, ma'am.
StoneTools - September 8, 2013, 7:06 pm,
said the sackless coward
OTC - September 9, 2013, 5:15 pm,
By 'you' you mean the plural as in all of us here
crankyhead - September 9, 2013, 7:07 pm,
Moving on from putting words in my mouth, to redefining the ones that come out of it, huh? Nice try ma'am.
OTC - September 9, 2013, 9:34 pm,
Idiot, 'you' does have two meanings, just trying to clarify which one, conspiracy much?
StoneTools - September 10, 2013, 12:43 am,
methinks cranky is a paranoid schizophrenic.
Mooooooooooooooooooo - September 8, 2013, 7:33 pm,  
Hey ST, what happened to your thread about Obama calling Putin a ja****s? I was going to make a funny comment that you wouldn't understand..
StoneTools - September 9, 2013, 12:46 am,
very impressive moo, I'm sure it would have been very witty.
Mooooooooooooooooooo - September 9, 2013, 8:09 am,  
For someone who demands answers from others you sure did a fine job of ignoring the one I just asked....So, Where did your thread go?
StoneTools - September 9, 2013, 12:00 pm,
I thought it was a rhetorical question. Where it went was, I deleted it because it was a comedy skit and I knew you libs wouldn't understand that. Any more questions?
Mooooooooooooooooooo - September 9, 2013, 7:05 pm,  
Just one. Do you really expect anyone to believe that?
StoneTools - September 10, 2013, 12:42 am,
You asked, I responded. I will answer your second question with a question for you: What makes you think I care what you think?
StoneTools - September 10, 2013, 1:04 am,
Now I understand you better moo. You expected me to cranky out on responding, but when I told you the article was satire, you were stunned and only had the option to say something stupid like "nuh uh" - nice try einstein.
StoneTools - September 10, 2013, 1:08 am,
and now I will follow up on the same question that hasn't been answered by the lying coward cranky: Where is the name of any soldier with an a**ault rifle who was surrounding your hero hasan while he murdered unarmed soldiers?
StoneTools - September 10, 2013, 1:05 am,
but very predictable and poorly played on your part. Come back when you can get a little more witty or challenging.
Mooooooooooooooooooo - September 10, 2013, 8:14 am,  
You deleted it because you thought it was real when you posted it, and now you won't admit it because you're too stubborn to admit you were wrong..just like you're too stubborn to admit you're a bible thumping conservative. A real man would have owned it.
Mooooooooooooooooooo - September 10, 2013, 8:22 am,  
I didn't expect you to avoid answering, I expected you to lie....very predictable and poorly played on your part.
StoneTools - September 10, 2013, 9:20 am,
whatever you say moo. Before you started ragging on me, I believed the hype that you were a fairly intelligent poster, but now I can see you just change situations to fit your crankyland narrative. Believe what you want, that's your choice, it's a
StoneTools - September 10, 2013, 9:20 am,
whatever you say moo. Before you started ragging on me, I believed the hype that you were a fairly intelligent poster, but now I can see you just change situations to fit your crankyland narrative. Believe what you want, that's your choice, it's a
StoneTools - September 10, 2013, 9:23 am,
but at least come up with some bull**** that has at least a whiff of plausibility to it, not just "nuh-uh, my narrow mind is already made up before you answer and if you don't answer the way I expect, you are a liar" bwahahahaha, you're a rodeo clown
StoneTools - September 10, 2013, 9:46 am,
You might want to keep in mind as we do this back and forth, that you attacked me first, not the other way around.
StoneTools - September 10, 2013, 9:27 am,
and you even suck at that. Let me guess, you live on Canadian food stamps, finally married your boyfriend of 10 years, and drink that moose piss beer, eh?
Mooooooooooooooooooo - September 10, 2013, 10:15 am,  
I'm gainfully employed and straight thanks. I never attacked you, I questioned you. You proved yourself to be a weak minded coward by resorting to name calling and lying to cover your ineptitude. I'd have a lot more respect for you if you'd just admitted
Mooooooooooooooooooo - September 10, 2013, 10:17 am,  
That you thought the article was real. Alas, you lack the stones for even that bit of genuine adult behaviour. That's sad for you.
StoneTools - September 10, 2013, 11:21 am,
If I thought the article was real, why would I have deleted it? Little logic fail there moo?
StoneTools - September 10, 2013, 11:25 am,
That's funny, in the same sentence you say I never attacked you, then you attack me again. You need to get your meds adjusted.
StoneTools - September 10, 2013, 11:27 am,
and, calling me a liar, is attacking me. But then, deep inside, beyond all the layers of built up bull**** and chest pounding, you knew that, didn't you?
Mooooooooooooooooooo - September 10, 2013, 10:20 am,  
The fact that you criticize Canadian beer just proves your ignorance, most Americans prefer it to that water you fellas drink, you'd know that if you were over 21. Cheers.
StoneTools - September 10, 2013, 11:22 am,
Another bad attempt at trying to figure me out. The fact is that I don't drink any alcohol. You can post all your fantasies about why, but that's your issue.
Mooooooooooooooooooo - September 10, 2013, 12:11 pm,  
You don't drink but you thin you can criticize our beer. You're not religious but you only criticize atheists, never Christians. You're not conservative, but you only criticize liberals…you make this too easy. As I said, enjoy your denial.
crankyhead - September 10, 2013, 5:31 pm,
Is the reason you don't drink because your I.D. says "McLovin"?
StoneTools - September 10, 2013, 12:34 pm,
You have a lot of room to talk. You say I didn't attack you, then, in the same sentence, proceed to attack me. Hypocrite much?
StoneTools - September 10, 2013, 12:37 pm,
Also, I don't do drugs, but I have the audacity to complain about drug addicts. I'm not a politician, yet I complain about politicians. I'm not an illegal immigrant, yet I complain about illegal immigration. Wow, I'm really in denial now, huh?
StoneTools - September 10, 2013, 12:38 pm,
that didn't come out at all like I intended.
crankyhead - September 10, 2013, 5:28 pm,
Really? Being unable to control your emotions betrayed that supposedly even keeled intellect you believe you possess? Who would have ever thought that could happen? #sarcasmforonetrickponies
StoneTools - September 10, 2013, 12:39 pm,
The bottom line is that I attack people who attack others and claim the moral high ground. Liberals do that repeatedly.
OTC - September 10, 2013, 11:00 am,
And yet, we're still waiting for canky to validate his poster about the soldiers carrying rifles and why they didn't return fire
StoneTools - September 10, 2013, 1:01 pm,
I think he's implying that either the military members cowered and couldn't fire the rifles that cranky fantasized or that they didn't know how to fire them. No matter how you look at it, cranky is full of crap about the poster and is too chicken**** to
crankyhead - September 10, 2013, 5:11 pm,
Failed again ST. That's not what I'm implying at all. Nice to get a little insight into what your strawman thinks though.
StoneTools - September 10, 2013, 1:01 pm,
man up and admit he was wrong.
crankyhead - September 10, 2013, 5:10 pm,
No offense princess, but I already told you what I'm willing to trade for that information.
StoneTools - September 10, 2013, 6:15 pm,
So your answer is still, "Duh, I'm a bull**** artist and can't bring myself to grow a pair and admit my poster was bull**** and offensive to the victims"
OTC - September 10, 2013, 9:34 pm,
Bartering for an answer? Roflmao!
crankyhead - September 13, 2013, 3:36 pm,
Nope. Not bartering. Just being plainly open about reciprocating the hypocrisy, and giving you an opportunity to chastise me for doing the same thing that you do, ma'am.
OTC - September 13, 2013, 9:00 pm,
"reciprocating the hypocrisy"? I forget, is this the diversion or the distraction? So, if you don't (or can't) answer my question, how about answering the others who asked the same question? Or are you trying to find an excuse to avoid them as well?
WTFO - September 11, 2013, 2:17 am,
The thread arguments set aside. This is a vile poster that completely misrepresents what happened at Ft Hood. The idiot creator implies that soldiers walk around post armed 24/7. Hasan attacked an area on post where guns are forbidden to be carried.
WTFO - September 11, 2013, 2:20 am,
The attack lasted 10 minutes total so there was no time to rush to the armory, draw arms and counterattack. Lastly, the moron who created this ignorantly blames guns for the violence instead of the radical Islamic terrorist (screaming Alluha Akbar).
crankyhead - September 13, 2013, 3:38 pm,
I've only implied that there are guns on military bases, and the people who work there, have the training to use them.
WTFO - September 11, 2013, 2:23 am,
13 families lost a son/daughter/mother/father/etc. 29 other families had one of their own wounded in this terrorist attack. This poster proves why its creator is 1 of the biggest POS's on this site. Ignorant little trolls should be ignored. Go F yourself!
crankyhead - September 13, 2013, 3:42 pm,
...said Colonel Clueless. 10 minutes is an eternity in a firefight. You would know that, if you'd ever been in one. Also, I put a ph**o of Hasan on the poster, wearing an orange prison jumpsuit. The first sentence in the text, clearly states that...
crankyhead - September 13, 2013, 3:43 pm,
... I believe he's responsible for thirteen murders. This was before the court made it's own decision, by the way. So, y'know, try getting your narrative to fit the facts, instead of the other way around for once.
OTC - September 13, 2013, 5:09 pm,
'Clearly states'? No where do the words "I believe" appear which clearly states he did kill 13 soldiers and "carrying" a$sault rifles implies people had them in hand. What you should be saying is 'my poster is total Bravo Sierra' instead
OTC - September 13, 2013, 5:10 pm,
of trying to crawfish out of it by defending this crap with more BS that clearly isn't true
crankyhead - September 14, 2013, 10:04 pm,
P.S. Princess, I wasn't referring to you, when I said 'Colonel Clueless'.
StoneTools - September 13, 2013, 5:34 pm,
Nor does the poster use the word murder
StoneTools - September 11, 2013, 9:14 am,
Well said. Cranky you should do yourself a favor and do exactly like WTFO said and go F yourself. Do it NOW!
crankyhead - September 13, 2013, 3:44 pm,
Mmmmmm.... maybe later. We'll see.
OTC - September 11, 2013, 1:40 pm,
And afterwards, hide all shiny objects before you log in, maybe you won't be as distracted to whats going on
crankyhead - September 14, 2013, 10:02 pm,
You two carry on with the semantics all you want. You want answers? Me too.
OTC - September 14, 2013, 11:39 pm,
You can't be that stupid, but then again. In true liberal form, you propagandized a tragedy with no facts, which we have been asking for. The reason you can't answer is because unarmed soldiers surrounding the shooter were murdered. If they were armed...
StoneTools - September 15, 2013, 1:27 am,
I disagree, Cranky really is THAT stupid.
crankyhead - September 15, 2013, 1:18 pm,
No facts you say, OTC? Are you really going on record here saying that Hasan isn't guilty of killing 13 people? Because that, my dear little princess, WOULD be stupid.
OTC - September 14, 2013, 11:43 pm,
2 possible out comes, the shooting would have ended as fast as it started saving lives, or it would not have happened. I don't recall any mass shootings where the majority or all the victims were armed. So your poster is BS
crankyhead - September 15, 2013, 1:21 pm,
Can't think of a single one huh?
StoneTools - September 16, 2013, 1:28 am,
You just can't bring yourself to say murdered instead of killed can you cranky? That would destroy your narrative, wouldn't it?
crankyhead - September 16, 2013, 11:54 am,
Is that what the court said?
StoneTools - September 16, 2013, 11:58 am,
Did you notice none the charges against Hasan were for killing soldiers, they were for MURDERING soldiers. But, then, you are too ignorant to know that there's a difference.
crankyhead - September 16, 2013, 12:02 pm,
That's what the court determined is it?
OTC - September 16, 2013, 12:58 pm,
So you really are that stupid. I went on record saying you propagandized a 'tragedy' which is that of Hasan murdering 13 soldiers, and, after giving you the answer to the questions, you still want to argue.
OTC - September 16, 2013, 1:01 pm,
Where are your facts that the soldiers surrounding Hasan were armed with a$sault rifles? Or that more guns is not the solution?
OTC - September 16, 2013, 1:16 pm,
When you say "I believe" as you did in 59689 that is an opinion, now you are saying it is a fact? Sounds like Kerry trying to justify striking Syria- 'I believe that to be true'. Not very creditable.
Curlyrocks - September 16, 2013, 4:06 pm,
So now what about todays Navy Yard shooting. This time it was a heavily secure facility with armed guards on stand by for just such an incident but they still managed to kill 11 people. Although there where 2 shooters and details are still sketchy.
OTC - September 16, 2013, 6:01 pm,
Isn't this where we jump to conclusions and say they "acted stupidly"?
Mooooooooooooooooooo - September 17, 2013, 12:11 am,  
This guy was arrested before enlisting for shooting out the tires of a car during a road rage incident he called a "blackout" Again during his military career for discharging a firearm within city limits which he called an "accident"...and no one saw...
Mooooooooooooooooooo - September 17, 2013, 12:12 am,  
..the signs?....Go home're drunk!.
Mooooooooooooooooooo - September 17, 2013, 8:15 am,  
I should be clear, I was talking about the most recent U.S military guy who went nuts and sh** a bunch of people...not the lunatic on the poster.
StoneTools - September 17, 2013, 11:59 am,
He wasn't military, he was a contractor and worked for Hewlett Packard.
Mooooooooooooooooooo - September 17, 2013, 12:40 pm,  
He was a dishonourably discharged reservist before he was a contractor. You'd know that if you bothered to check.
StoneTools - September 17, 2013, 12:41 pm,
What's that have to do with it? He was a contractor, a civilian, a FORMER reservist, but you'd know that if you bothered to check before posting a childish response.
StoneTools - September 17, 2013, 12:42 pm,
But then, I guess you could say he was also a child since at one time he was 2 years old, right?
Mooooooooooooooooooo - September 17, 2013, 1:45 pm,  
The point is that he enlisted and trusted with weapons even after he had his "blackout" and then discharged in 2011 for another gun related incident and no one saw that as an issue? It's like asking for a mass shooting.
Mooooooooooooooooooo - September 17, 2013, 1:49 pm,  
But I don't expect you to understand that, you just disagree on principle at this point.
StoneTools - September 17, 2013, 2:20 pm,
You act like a pompous a** and expect others to bow to you? It's the principal behind the statement. You called him a "U.S military guy" but he wasn't in the military at the time of the shooting. Had you said EX-military, you would be correct
StoneTools - September 17, 2013, 2:23 pm,
Just like the Blackwater guys, nobody refers to them as military, but they are referred to as former military, contractors, or mercenaries.
StoneTools - September 17, 2013, 2:24 pm,
that being said, you are correct that having him around was asking for trouble and his past, like that of hasan, should have raised all sorts of red flags.
Mooooooooooooooooooo - September 17, 2013, 2:33 pm,  
Every ex military member I have ever known identifies themselves as "military" for the rest of their lives. I thought the "ex" was unnecessary. ... When did I ask you to bow to me?
StoneTools - September 17, 2013, 2:39 pm,
The statement about Blackwater stands as is. They are former military and don't call themselves anything but former military. And they were the hardcore type, not a former wimpy navy reservist.
StoneTools - September 17, 2013, 2:43 pm,
But the more important question, after all of this chaffe, is how the hell did he hold a Secret clearance with the background that he had?
StoneTools - September 17, 2013, 2:47 pm,
calling themselves military might be a Canadian thing. I think active military would be pretty upset about a former reservist referring to himself as being in the military.
Mooooooooooooooooooo - September 17, 2013, 3:01 pm,  
I know many US x military members through my job, most were in Vietnam. They all talk like it was yesterday and they're still in the military. That's just an observation, I'm not saying they're all like that. But yeah, how did this guy have clearance?
Curlyrocks - September 17, 2013, 3:39 pm,
They're still too busy investigating how Ed Snowden got clearance to care about how these psychos get the clearance they need to pull stuff like this off.
OTC - September 17, 2013, 12:06 pm,
That's the disease of liberalism, lliberal political correctness kept officers from reporting Hasan for fear it may be racial. Political correctness is just as responsible for the deaths of these people because as we all know, disagreeing with someone
OTC - September 17, 2013, 12:08 pm,
who isn't white is racism, so we can't say anything, even if that person acts strange or seems a danger. Liberals call that being 'insensitive'
crankyhead - September 17, 2013, 12:13 pm,
No tragedy too large or too small that conservatives wont seize it to push their political agenda, eh OTC? Hasan killed those people. Not Liberalism. You ghoul.
StoneTools - September 17, 2013, 12:17 pm,
Since when are you conservative? YOu made the poster to seize on an opportunity to press for a liberal agenda: gun control. Hypocrite much or do you just not understand what you post?
crankyhead - September 17, 2013, 12:22 pm,
If I can prove that there are conservatives who also want gun control, does that mean you're going to admit you're an idiot?
StoneTools - September 17, 2013, 12:25 pm,
Pisspoor attempt at diversion. You cry about people using tragedy to promote an agenda on a comment thread about a poster that you made which exploits a tragedy for a political agenda. Not too smart are you?
crankyhead - September 17, 2013, 6:22 pm,
I may be crying about people using a tragedy to promote an agenda. I won't deny it. At least I'm not crying to the mods about it though. Please point out where I referenced a politician, or a political party, or political agenda in this poster, please.
OTC - September 17, 2013, 5:21 pm,
Sure cranky, I'll admit you're an idiot
OTC - September 17, 2013, 12:21 pm,
Liberal political correctness kept officers from reporting him, thus possibly preventing the tragedy, idiot
crankyhead - September 17, 2013, 12:24 pm,
Assumptions are not facts, idiot.
crankyhead - September 17, 2013, 6:18 pm,
The operative part of this sentence being "...possibly...", OTC. You're acting as though it should read "...certainly...", and the reason you're doing that, is lost on me. I can only guess that it's because you see an opportunity to use a tragedy to...
crankyhead - September 17, 2013, 6:19 pm,
...blame liberalism for everything. As usual.
OTC - September 17, 2013, 12:27 pm,
Fact: officers were afraid to report Hasan because of political correctness. Fiction: your a**umption that soldiers were carrying a$sault rifles.
OTC - September 17, 2013, 12:28 pm,
You finally admt your poster is BS and it took how long?
StoneTools - September 17, 2013, 2:45 pm,
I don't think he understands it even after all the lecturing he's received about the ignorance of the poster.
OTC - September 17, 2013, 2:58 pm,
Its funny that the official Senate report on the shooting states -" "political correctness” inhibited Hasan’s superiors...from taking action... that could have prevented the attack". And this idiot thinks my comments are my opinion? Talk to the US Senate.
crankyhead - September 17, 2013, 6:16 pm,
The operative part of that sentence being "...could have...", OTC.
StoneTools - September 17, 2013, 6:41 pm,
Check out the second paragraph of this article from 2009:
StoneTools - September 17, 2013, 6:42 pm,
Oh, noes! It was Clinton's doing!
StoneTools - September 17, 2013, 6:43 pm,
Also: "Because of Mr. Clinton, terrorists would face more return fire if they attacked a Texas Wal-Mart than the gunman faced at Fort Hood"
OTC - September 17, 2013, 9:05 pm,
Now ST, that article is filled with facts, like the soldiers being unarmed, mass shootings occur in gun free zones, that totally debunks this poster that a$sumed the opposite was true.
StoneTools - September 18, 2013, 12:45 am,
I can just imagine cranky choking on that dinner of crow
OTC - September 18, 2013, 1:22 pm,
ST, I'm surprised cranky hasn't called you an idiot for echoing facts, like I've been doing. I used to "think" cranky was an idiot, but thankfully, in this poster thread he has removed all doubt.
StoneTools - September 18, 2013, 4:32 pm,
I think he's stunned that we showed him how indefensible, and filled with bull****, his poster is.
crankyhead - September 18, 2013, 5:22 pm,
Except I've been defending it for weeks, and will continue to do so. I'm actually thinking of making another poster, just like this one, but instead of Hasan, it'll be a ph**o of Alexis, and instead of thirteen, it'll say twelve. Then what?
StoneTools - October 1, 2013, 5:28 pm,
oh, so you are saying that you are, once again, going to exploit a tragedy for a political statement?
StoneTools - October 1, 2013, 5:29 pm,
and will that one be filled with bull**** like the hasan poster? Of course it will, that's your MO
OTC - October 1, 2013, 7:54 pm,
Sure, liberals never let a tragedy or crisis go to waste
crankyhead - September 17, 2013, 6:54 pm,
Remind us again how Hasan ended up with a bullet in his spine?
OTC - September 17, 2013, 8:53 pm,
Certainly not by any soldier that you a$sumed was carrying a rifle. And I am not aware of any mass shootings where the majority of victims were armed. You also negated the last sentence of your poster since more guns was the solution to ending Hasan
crankyhead - September 18, 2013, 5:18 pm,
Still can't think of a single episode in history where a bunch of guys carrying guns got killed, huh?
OTC - October 1, 2013, 4:43 pm,
You see, I CAN answer the question but WON'T, cranky WON'T answer the question because he CAN'T.
fauxnews - November 20, 2013, 11:40 pm,
AMAZING POSTER...if for no other reason than look at all the attention it has gotten. If the haters really didn't like this poster, they wouldn't give it this much attention. Real men would ignore it if it was absurd or irrelevant. WIN
fauxnews - November 20, 2013, 11:40 pm,
lol..So this is the poster that has Arnnatz and his socks' panties in a bunch? haha..
fauxnews - November 20, 2013, 11:44 pm,
POINT OF THIS POSTER: If a Columbine style shooting can happen on a military base where well-trained armed men couldn't stop it,then the problem isnt 'not enough guns.' The problem is guns in the WRONG HANDS.We need better screening so wackos can't get'em
fauxnews - November 20, 2013, 11:46 pm,
...Anyone who disagrees with this dishonors & disrespects those who were slain by such senseless violence. It's our job to make sure this never happens again.Saying that 'anyone' gets a gun is the same thing as saying it was okay for Hasan to have/use one
crankyhead - December 1, 2013, 2:49 pm,
Just for the record, if I've offended anyone, that wasn't my intention, and I apologize. Sincerely.
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