[crankyhead]

WTFO, are you openly accusing me of abusing my influence? Got any proof? See, I'm not a mod at politifake, I'm a participant. So... good luck with that.

Here's part of my proof of astroturfing, just so we can all be aware of who's a delusional dimbulb, and who isn't.
poster #9835
comments #15670 & 15671

I have no information regarding any conflicts you might have had with past moderators at motifake WTFO, and really, I couldn't care less about the things you might have whined about in the past. I am, however, fairly confident, that in your tiny little mind, you believe that none of it was your fault.

You take issue with me, because you don't know how to get rid of me. You're frustrated that someone with a different opinion would stick it out for as long as I have. Let me apologise for that.

Excuse me for not being the kind of person who's only happy when he's surrounded by self serving sycophants.

Excuse me for enjoying a dialogue with people who disagree with me.

Excuse me for being willing to climb in the trenches on the battlefield of political ideas, rather than be some rear echelon coward.

[arnnatz]

When did I say that you and Groucho were the same person WTFO?

I said that I believed Groucho and Arnnatz were the same person. Y'know, Arnnoucho or Groucnatz.

Trying to tell me something?

What shred of rational reason can you drag out of your ass for assuming that groucho and I are the same person. I tried to debate with you until you started the name calling and refused to provide any basis of fact to back up your absurd statements. Then, all of a sudden, you started claiming that I was groucho. I've never been groucho, though I commend him for calling a spade a spade when it comes to your illogical ranting and raving on this site.

And, in case you are too ignorant to see it, I keep my online status available for all to see. I noticed that you hide your status just like loucseki. Coincidence?

[crankyhead]

I can't speak for loucseki, but the reason that I keep my online status hidden is simple Arnnatz. I'm responsible for approving/rejecting content over at motifake. Some folks get real pissy when you don't approve 100% of their posters and those same people tend to take things personally. Staying hidden is a way of avoiding unnecessary confrontation. If I stay hidden on one site, I'm hidden on every site.

As far as the name calling goes, Arnnatz, you're hardly in a position to absolve yourself of any responsibility in that matter. You can't have your cake and eat it too, so stop being such a cry-baby about it. Unless of course, you're willing to come to an agreement right now, that we both cease and desist with the unpleasantness? I'd be more than willing to agree to that.

[WTFO]

You know Cranky, you make my case better than anyone.

Specifically, the case I've been making for months that you are a complete idiot and/or a liar. I clearly stated in my Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:41 pm comment, "Cranky runs back to Motifake (where he is a mod) and recruits some of his friends over there (who certainly can't be considered regular contributors on Politifake) and gets them to "sign" on to his little petition.

In the Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:23 pm comment Cranky says, "See, I'm not a mod at politifake, I'm a participant."

See here's the fun part. There really is only two choices to this: Either Cranky is (1) and idiot and can't read my post calling him a Motifake Mod, or (2) he is intentionally claiming that I'm accusing him of being a Politifake Mod, which amounts to lying about my statement.

On the Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:37 pm coment Cranky proves what I said about him being a Motifake Mod, "I'm responsible for approving/rejecting content over at motifake."

As additional evidence, anyone can go to the comments pages on Motifake. When they scroll to one of your comments (NOTE: Cranky's avatar is a weasel), they can see the word "Moderator" next to your name.

Want more? Okay. If you follow this link http://www.motifake.com/forum/memberlis ... roup&g=402, you will come upon the Motifake list of "Global Moderators"

Now, the link for the Global Moderators shows a few names of your fellow mods: Motinet, Reality Lord, Crankyhead, Verdeckt, & rerun. (As I stated before, I've got nothing against any of them. Rerun is great. RL is very good from my limited dealings with him and I haven't engaged with Verdeckt much if at all.) But, did anyone notice anything familiar about any of those names. Hold on, it'll come to me...

That's it! On the 2nd page of this thread, Verdeckt, RL and Rerun weigh in on the topic. The only non-Mod from Motifake was Greeny. Let's dig deeper, shall we? The posts from Verdeckt and Greeny show that this was their very first posts on the forums on this site. It was RL's second. Rerun, used to visit but is normally too busy for political rants, but it was his 39th post.

Maybe what other politifakers here don't know is that there is a tool (I believe it's a thread open only to them, but not positive) the mods can use on Motifake to allow them to communicate in private (in case they are dealing with sensitive issues that the rest of the site doesn't need to know about).

That's plenty of proof for me. Why don't you ever just tell the truth, Cranky? Oh well, I guess I can't expect miracles.
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In the Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:23 pm comment you state, "Here's part of my proof of astroturfing, just so we can all be aware of who's a delusional dimbulb, and who isn't. poster #9835 comments #15670 & 15671"

I followed your link (and would recommend others do too) and saw the comments you're pointing out by todd snyder back in Oct 13, 2011 stating "Thanks you! 5L's, I am going to go to another computer and vote 5 more L's. Poster of the day.". Todd is a guy who visits the site rarely and makes a few comments but hasn't commented here since Dec 7 2011. Here's another option with Todd's comment that you may not be smart enough to have considered---he might have been joking.

Regardless, what I have to wonder is what he has to do with the argument you are making? You stated in your Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:43 pm comment "I believed Groucho and Arnnatz were the same person". So now you point to a 3rd party to prove that Groucho and Arnnatz are one in the same? I guess only liberal idiocy can make that leap.

As rerun stated, you only get 1 vote per IP address, regardless of how many names you use. Moreover, if someone is stacking the deck as you accuse (pointing to Todd's comment) by using another computer, it would have a different IP address and your petition for username transparency would be useless (pointing back to my assertion that you're an idiot).
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In the Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:37 pm comment you said, "Staying hidden is a way of avoiding unnecessary confrontation". This is a completely laughable comment as far as I'm concerned. While it reveals that you may be afraid to stand up for your content decisions on Motifake (maybe folks have a reason to call out your decisions, which is why you hide), this makes me laugh for a different reason:

Your whole purpose on Politifake is to engage in "unnecessary confrontation"! You are merely a Canadian hater with no vested interest in US politics, yet you constantly troll this site (instead of actually working) looking to pick fights and spew your stupidity all over the place.
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In the Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:37 pm comment you offered this to Arnnatz "we both cease and desist with the unpleasantness? I'd be more than willing to agree to that." This, of course, is a complete lie and you know it. You are completely incapable of being civil to anyone who proves all your BS incorrect. You are a childish little asshat. I tried to be polite and respectful, you began the "unpleasantness" by being a sarcastic, name-calling child. You can't help yourself. It's in your nature. The only person who cries about it, has been you. You call someone a name and then get your panties in a knot when they return the favor.

That is why I refuse to justify any of your ignorant political BS on this site. Because regardless of how many times you claim that you just want a good discussion on the topics, we all know you are lying. You've proven that in multiple comments were you openly admit that you don't need to read the evidence posted or view the video that proves the other side's position because you "already know what it says". Fact is you are too afraid to have a mature conversation with anyone who disagrees with your liberal dogma. That would actually require you to read/listen to the other side and give it honest and sincere consideration. You're too stupid for that.

[crankyhead]

1) Actually WTFO, if you care to go back and see which one of us crossed the line first, it's right there in the written record.

2) My ability to see IP's and track users is actually limited to motifake. I have no power or influence beyond what you have, here at politifake. Ergo, I'm not a mod here, I'm a participant. Don't go looking for conspiracies where there are none.

3) I don't know what it is you think you're proving, by pointing out that I'm a mod at motifake. It's not a secret.

4) Just because I'm not willing to discuss my personal life with you, doesn't mean I'm not acting out of self interest. My personal information is none of your business. Nor is it relevant to any discussion we might have. (see: anecdotal evidence.)

5) Greeny is a mod at MAD. The mods from the various sites on the network, naturally network with each other. Makes it easier to keep track of problematic people. Common sense, right?

6) If Arnnatz had the sense to agree to my proposal, I could prove my sincerity. I'll extend you the same offer, WTFO. It's one that is genuine. You should afford me the opportunity to prove it to you as well. If I were to break the contract, that would only work to your favour.

7) Noone ever changed anyone else's mind by disrespecting them. If I can pick your arguments apart, you shouldn't hold a grudge against me for doing it, you should be angry at yourself for believing in them in the first place.

[arnnatz]

Cranky's avatar is a weasel

It's a fitting avatar, isn't it?

[arnnatz]

If Arnnatz had the sense to agree to my proposal

There is no benefit for me to agree to anything with you cranky, you are just a tool and, as WTFO pointed out, a bullshitter. You are a typical liberal in that you prefer to distort or ignore facts and use bogus "statistics" and rectal extractions in your arguments. Also, as WTFO pointed out, you use name calling as a distractor when you are pushed into a corner with your inability to effectively argue.

I remember a comment you made (I have no intention of finding the comment, if you so desire, please do so) to your alter ego, loucseki, where you stated that you preferred to make conservatives reverse course with your brilliant diatribe. I haven't seen any comments where you make a compelling argument on anything, unless calling someone an idiot who doesn't buy your crap compelling or brilliant.

[crankyhead]

There is no benefit for me to agree to anything with you cranky, you are just a tool and, as WTFO pointed out, a bullshitter. You are a typical liberal in that you prefer to distort or ignore facts and use bogus "statistics" and rectal extractions in your arguments. Also, as WTFO pointed out, you use name calling as a distractor when you are pushed into a corner with your inability to effectively argue.

I fully understand why you'd rather not accept the agreement to behave like gentlemen, for you, this would be an impossibility.

I remember a comment you made (I have no intention of finding the comment, if you so desire, please do so) to your alter ego, loucseki, where you stated that you preferred to make conservatives reverse course with your brilliant diatribe. I haven't seen any comments where you make a compelling argument on anything, unless calling someone an idiot who doesn't buy your crap compelling or brilliant.

Provide the quote, or it's merely hearsay.

Example: I remember a comment you made Arnnatz(I have no intention of finding the comment, if you so desire, please do so), where you admitted to being Groucho.

See how that works?

[arnnatz]

[quote="crankyhead]I fully understand why you'd rather not accept the agreement to behave like gentlemen, for you, this would be an impossibility.[/quote]

Here's an example of how a "discussion" with crackhead would go:

arnnatz: The sky in Chicago looks kind of gray today.
CrankyHead According to http://skyinecuadorisblue.com that's bs because it says the sky is blue.
arnnatz: I'm telling you that I looked out my hotel window and the sky is gray, not blue today.
CrankyHead: You are an idiot.

and that's why I don't care to accept anything from you, because you are a total buffoon.

[crankyhead]

Here's an example of how a "discussion" with crackhead would go:

arnnatz: The sky in Chicago looks kind of gray today.
CrankyHead According to http://skyinecuadorisblue.com that's bs because it says the sky is blue.
arnnatz: I'm telling you that I looked out my hotel window and the sky is gray, not blue today.
CrankyHead: You are an idiot.

and that's why I don't care to accept anything from you, because you are a total buffoon.

The conversation would probably go like this:

arnnatz: The sky in Chicago looks kind of gray today.
crankyhead: Actually Arnnatz, the sky is colourless.
arnnatz: What?
crankyhead: What you perceive as colour, is just earth's gravity refracting the light from the sun. At night, when there is no sunlight, there is no colour in the sky, you see what I mean?
arnnatz: I'm telling you that I looked out my hotel window and the sky is gray, not blue today.
crankyhead: Those are called clouds Arnnatz. They're probably moisture laden stratocumulous clouds, but I'm not in Chicago, so that's just an educated guess.
arnnatz: You're an asshole. A stupid liberal asshole with no facts. All you do is spread stupid liberal asshole lies, you asshole. Stupid elitist liberal asshole.
crankyhead: *sigh* If you're going out, don't forget your umbrella...
arnnatz: Shut up you asshole liberal liar.