[KALKAM]

Um, maybe because none of that information has anything to do with government and is really none of anyone's goddamn business? Those are personal records, would you like it if any idiot with internet could google YOUR medical records? Actually, that would be pretty sweet to be able to look up some asshole's files and find out they're allergic to, say, peanuts. Then, while he's not looking, slip some planters into his morning coffee.

If we have to pay for people's health insurance then it is absolutely our business. I'll tell those that disagree the same spoiled teenagers have had to hear..."don't like it, then move out, get a job and pay for it yourself...otherwise everything I have to pay for is my business".

Do you know what vetting is?...

It's that thing that the press never did to Obama...

today I’m pledging to cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term in office. This will not be easy. It will require us to make difficult decisions and face challenges we’ve long neglected. But I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay — and that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control.

That's not a political issue he's taking a side on, that's a campaign promise. "I'm pledging" should have clued you into that. Politicians renege on those all the time. Remember "No New Taxes"? I'd list more but I'd have to google them and I really don't care enough to put any effort into it.

Since we are talking about saying one thing and doing another here is a quote from Obama back in the day...

“today I’m pledging to cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term in office....

Thanks for the tip! But you should have clued in on what you omitted from my quote...of course doing so would make your attempt to dismiss what normal people knew to be an absolute lie even sillier than it turned out to be.

So should we put you down as an Obama supporter then?

[Bull]

Um, maybe because none of that information has anything to do with government and is really none of anyone's goddamn business? Those are personal records, would you like it if any idiot with internet could google YOUR medical records? Actually, that would be pretty sweet to be able to look up some asshole's files and find out they're allergic to, say, peanuts. Then, while he's not looking, slip some planters into his morning coffee.

If we have to pay for people's health insurance then it is absolutely our business. I'll tell those that disagree the same spoiled teenagers have had to hear..."don't like it, then move out, get a job and pay for it yourself...otherwise everything I have to pay for is my business".

Medical records ( as well as school transcripts I found out) are confidential files that neither the public or the gov't has any right to view. The only people who should have access to them besides the individual is the doctor. I really can't believe that someone who's so adamantly against collectivism would be advocating communism in healthcare.

And you already do pay for other people's medical insurance, it's called medicare and medicaid. Perhaps we should change the statement on the Statue of Liberty from "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" to something like "Live free but pay for your own soup".

Thanks for the tip! But you should have clued in on what you omitted from my quote...of course doing so would make your attempt to dismiss what normal people knew to be an absolute lie even sillier than it turned out to be.

What I omitted from your quote? You mean this ...

True dat, he used to look like Santorum!

Since we are talking about saying one thing and doing another here is a quote from Obama back in the day...

“today I’m pledging to cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term in office. This will not be easy. It will require us to make difficult decisions and face challenges we’ve long neglected. But I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay — and that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control.”

Romney will have a tough time topping that flip flop....

Which part are you referring to? The part about Santorum or Romney? What did I omit from my previous quote of you that I should be clued into? The fact is that was a campaign promise that if you say he reneged on then I'll take your word for it because I really don't care enough to find out. Romney taking a side on an issue and Obama making promises he couldn't or doesn't keep are not the same thing. One is a try and fail (or not try and fail) and the other's a character misrepresentation. In my opinion.

And you do know that the president isn't the one who sets the national budget I hope? He may draft a budget and submit it to congress but ultimately it's congress that votes and passes a budget plan. That's after they've made changes to it as well.

So should we put you down as an Obama supporter then?

Oh, to be young and naive and think everything and everyone fit into neat little boxes again. There are some things about his policies that I agree with and others that I do not. Do I think he's a better choice than Romney? Sure, why not. Obama is no better or worse than the last ten presidents that came before him. The only difference is he's a black man. This election is going to be interesting to say the least. The right wing as a difficult choice to make. On the one hand you've got a sophisticated black man and on the other an extremely wealthy "non-christian". Me thinks many a redneck's head will be exploding.

Neither one will be getting a vote from me though.

[KALKAM]

Medical records ( as well as school transcripts I found out) are confidential files that neither the public or the gov't has any right to view. The only people who should have access to them besides the individual is the doctor. I really can't believe that someone who's so adamantly against collectivism would be advocating communism in healthcare.

Yes, the only people that should have access to them is the individual and the doctor but that hasn't been the case for years...

I adamantly against collectivism...that's why I fully support making the lives of those that engage in it as uncomfortable as possible....do unto others you know...I pay you obey...they don't like it then they should stop their thieving ways.

And you already do pay for other people's medical insurance, it's called medicare and medicaid. Perhaps we should change the statement on the Statue of Liberty from "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" to something like "Live free but pay for your own soup".

Yep, people should pay for their own soup...those that want to help can do so voluntarily. Charity is cool...theft is not.

Which part are you referring to? The part about Santorum or Romney? What did I omit from my previous quote of you that I should be clued into? The fact is that was a campaign promise that if you say he reneged on then I'll take your word for it because I really don't care enough to find out. Romney taking a side on an issue and Obama making promises he couldn't or doesn't keep are not the same thing. One is a try and fail (or not try and fail) and the other's a character misrepresentation. In my opinion.

And you do know that the president isn't the one who sets the national budget I hope? He may draft a budget and submit it to congress but ultimately it's congress that votes and passes a budget plan. That's after they've made changes to it as well.

Yep, know all about it despite the fact that it was never taught in public school in NYC...they were busy teaching us about man made global cooling...

But Obama knew what sort he had in Congress, they shared the same political ideology...and then they lost control.

Oh, to be young and naive and think everything and everyone fit into neat little boxes again. There are some things about his policies that I agree with and others that I do not. Do I think he's a better choice than Romney? Sure, why not. Obama is no better or worse than the last ten presidents that came before him. The only difference is he's a black man. This election is going to be interesting to say the least. The right wing as a difficult choice to make. On the one hand you've got a sophisticated black man and on the other an extremely wealthy "non-christian". Me thinks many a redneck's head will be exploding.

Neither one will be getting a vote from me though.

Oh how I wish I was young...and if I were naive I would think the only difference is he is a black man...

Only Jimmy Carter can can say he was "no better, no worse" than Obama.

It won't be difficult for anyone....on one hand we have Obama..on the other hand we have someone who is not Obama.

[Bull]

So basically you're saying fcuk the poor, sick, elderly, and disabled. It's not your fault they're disenfranchised why should your taxes be used to better someone else's life. Hey that's cool. My wife works for a company that makes healthcare products used from the day you're born until the day you die. From baby formula to Ensure and a wide range of medications in between. The higher healthcare costs get the more money that comes into my household. (they provide her with stock options, profit sharing, and a full blown pension too ) They also provide medical for our whole family and even for our pets!! That's right, thanks to morons that don't want gov't run health insurance I can get my dogs vaccinated, spayed/neutered, even major medical proceedures on the company's dime which they turn around and claim as a tax write-off. That means you're still paying for healthcare for some ... it's just the the "some" that really need it.

[KALKAM]

So basically you're saying fcuk the poor, sick, elderly, and disabled. It's not your fault they're disenfranchised why should your taxes be used to better someone else's life. Hey that's cool. My wife works for a company that makes healthcare products used from the day you're born until the day you die. From baby formula to Ensure and a wide range of medications in between. The higher healthcare costs get the more money that comes into my household. (they provide her with stock options, profit sharing, and a full blown pension too ) They also provide medical for our whole family and even for our pets!! That's right, thanks to morons that don't want gov't run health insurance I can get my dogs vaccinated, spayed/neutered, even major medical proceedures on the company's dime which they turn around and claim as a tax write-off. That means you're still paying for healthcare for some ... it's just the the "some" that really need it.

Disabled? No not them...they are helpless so I have no problems with that...just the people that cash in on it when it should all be going to them.

For everyone else I remind them that I was poor, never took help from anyone, lived within a self imposed budget of 1100 a month for my entire 20's and most of my 30's...invested...now I am rich. Either I am superior in every way to them OR I choose to increase my wealth. I know many who lived well while I sacrificed and now I live better....so yeah, f*** em...if they want to work for me I'll see if I can use their skills...assuming they have any.

Your wife made a good decision...her company sees value in what she does. I'm sure she went to school with slackers who would resent her benefits.

A tax write off is nothing more than not having the government steal your money....no problems there. It's not like the tax revenue is going solely to essential services.

Mine works for a children's hospital in South Florida....lots of lay offs to healthcare professionals down here. A good friend and single mom lost her job due to the phase in of the ACA...I paid her bills. Better to help someone directly than to include the middle men responsible for dragging everyone else down....and I know for a fact she needs help...and she is appreciative. No strings attached...I'm better than the government.

I would rather you pets be vaccinated than anyone who used the government to steal for them...funny thing about these people is that they never say "thank you" to those of us paying their way through life...it's like they feel entitled to what I have...and that me and my family should downgrade our lives for them.

Funny thing...I am wealthier now than when I was young.