WTFO wrote:Here's a few simple positions you can answer for yourself:
1. Do you support the separation of church and state? Yes or No?
2. Do you support women's rights? Yes or No?
3. Do you support the rights of gays and lesbians? Yes or No?
4. Do you stand against institutionalized descrimination and murder against minorities? Yes or No?
5. Do you oppose child marraiges and pedophilia? Yes or No?
If you said yes to most or all of these...Congratulations! You stand against Islam.
WTFO wrote:May I recommend you read the Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades). You may learn that what you've been taught about Islam and the Crusades is complete BS.
WTFO wrote:However, on you points, you used the same tactic you've always used here. You try to redirect the conversation instead of address the merits of what I posted. Do you not have the courage to admit that these actions and directives outlined in the Qur'an and Hadiths are wrong?
WTFO wrote:--However, this is in no way an endorsement that governments must be based on Christianity like is the case with Islam.
--Result: this counter of yours is false and ineffective.
WTFO wrote:--had to do some digging in the Old Testament for a lot of this didn't you. Funny, modern Christianity is based much more on the New Testiment.
--Yep, there are some subjection statements in the bible but it is not practiced in modern Christian faith.
--Islam however, instructs to have multiple wives and force yourself on slave girls. Neither the bible or the teachings of Christianity endorse the abuse of women where in Islam women and girls are subjected to horrible acts endorsed by the institutions of Islam. Such as, rape, being divorced by their husbands when he states it 3 times, female circumcision, forced to cover all but their eyes and hands, beaten if walking in the street without a male relative, not having the right to drive, or vote, or be educated.
--Result: your second point fails because it is no longer part of the Christian faith in practice.
WTFO wrote:--Yep, Christianity preaches against homosexuality. However, it does not instruct that they be killed for it like Islam does (note the Hadith above).
--Result: pathetic attempt to make the teachings of the two religions equivalent. You fail again.
WTFO wrote:--You try to tie Christianity to the KKK? Just because they claim to be "devout Christians" doesn't make them so. This is a moronic position. Thank you for taking it because it shows how pathetic your points are that you have to grasp at these straws to try to validate your completely false accusations.
WTFO wrote:--Again, if you want the truth about the Crusades, read the book I mentioned above. A quick snapshot is that the Crusades were a retalitory strike against Muslims that had invaded Christian lands for hundreds of years as well as an attempt to stop their attempted domination further into Europe.
WTFO wrote:--While many atrocities were commited against Indians, your use of the term 'genocide' is an inflamatory remark. Historically, there is no data to say how many Indians there initially were when Europeans began to settle America. Therefore, there is no accurate data on how many were killed. Again, that doesn't justify killing of Indians or how the English, French, Spanish and settlers used Indian alliances against each other and between enemy tribes. However, you are incapable of providing any proof that any of this was "church sponsored".
--Result: point four is full of slander, lies and misstatements about historical facts. Another failure.
WTFO wrote:--You again are trying to paint an entire religion with the crimes of a few of its members.
WTFO wrote:--All this is quite different than Islam's sanctioning marriage of children based on the pedophile Muhammad's example with Aisha.
WTFO wrote:Maybe the next time you try to address something I post you will (a) address my points on the merits of the evidence I provide instead of trying to redirect the discussion because you can't argue effectively against my positions, or (b) you'll actually do some research on your support before I pick it apart and make you look foolish again.
WTFO wrote:You're honestly not worth my time. I've posted facts. You've posted lies and ignorance without even examining the evidence I put forth.
WTFO wrote:You mistate my positions by falsely claiming that I believe all muslims are "baby killing, women hating terrorists" and that I'm a "xenophobe".
WTFO wrote:Best of luck in your fairy world. I'm sure muslim terrorists will spare...
WTFO wrote:You, like a child, try to redirect the discussion instead of address the real concerns put forth.
WTFO wrote:Let honest and intelligent people on this site read both of our positions, do their own research and they'll find the truth.
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