crankyhead wrote:I'm not prone to such black and white thinking KALKAM. I believe that there is a middle ground somewhere between the supremacy of the individual, and the supremacy of the collective.
I also believe that this middle ground is what politics is all about.
I also don't believe that society provides you with nothing.
Are you generating your own electricity to power that computer you're using?
Did you design and build that computer yourself without using any pre existing technology?
The telephone line or satellite that allows that computer to connect to the internet... did you build that yourself?
Did you build the internet yourself?
Your operating system...Windows, Linux, Mac, whatever, did you write all the code for that yourself?
Your browser... IE, Chrome, Firefox, Safari, whatever, you wrote that program yourself?
Politifake.org... you wrote out the code for this website as well?
What about the language you speak? You invented English?
You see where I'm going with this? We're all indebted to the society we live in for the opportunities we have.
JGalt wrote:Whilst we are not of the Borg mentality, but are of the rugged individualist type..that more should be able to and should get out off their asses and work for their goods and services just like we do.
That's the exact point I was trying to illustrate to KALKAM. KALKAM said that society provides him with nothing. I'm saying that nobody exists outside of the collective. The work you do, is ultimately for the benefit of society, because you are providing goods or services to society, and the money you personally earn from your work, well you use that to purchase goods and services from other members of society. No man is an island, so to speak.
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