[KALKAM]

I love Canada. We all do. What better people to share a border with eh?

I was noticing the responses I was getting on another site and although it contained that pompous “I’m educated and you’re not” attitude leftists have... it was oddly…polite?

Mystery Leftist-“I think you're a little misguided here. The military spending was the deficit spending. Military spending in the United States is and has been for many years 1/3 of the federal budget. Social programs make up miniscule part.”

I figured that meant I was being enlightened by a Canadian leftist. Sure enough I was correct!

Me-“Your budget was 253.2b... your population is appx. 3,472,700… divided “equally” that amounts to 72,911 per person.

Our budget was 3.8 trillion...our population is appx. 311,591,917... divided equally that amounts to 12,195 per person.

To not account for these things is misguided.

I was good enough to calculate this without deducting our military spending but I did deduct Canada’s!
Any chance you guys could pick up the military slack in NATO so we can bring the military spending down to your levels? In the mean time I will let those here know that Canada has a welcoming immigration policy. But I have to warn you…most of them only have a US public school UFT supplied education…”

Really we Americans love Canada. My friends from there come down and spend the winter in South Florida. They own homes here but can’t stay in them all year long…something about having to be back in their country to keep their benefits? Not sure what they mean by that…

I don’t get it…if you are Canadian and more enlightened wouldn’t you bother to check the most basic facts of how our countries differ first? Wouldn't a real liberal let us defend our constitution and inalienable rights instead of trying to deliberately mislead people here? Bad enough we have that going on here with DNC buying off the UFT....

[KALKAM]

Canadian-"Nice try, however Canada's population is closer to 34m not 3.4m."

Me-"yep...lost the last decimal.

Shall I adjust it to reflect that? 7,291 per person...after military spending....vs 12,195 before military spending...want to know what that looks like after we spend?"

[crankyhead]

I was good enough to calculate this without deducting our military spending but I did deduct Canada’s!

Shall I adjust it to reflect that? 7,291 per person...after military spending...

Which is it?

[WTFO]

I was good enough to calculate this without deducting our military spending but I did deduct Canada’s!

Shall I adjust it to reflect that? 7,291 per person...after military spending...

Which is it?

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[WTFO]

I love Canada. We all do. What better people to share a border with eh?

I was noticing the responses I was getting on another site and although it contained that pompous “I’m educated and you’re not” attitude leftists have... it was oddly…polite?

Mystery Leftist-“I think you're a little misguided here. The military spending was the deficit spending. Military spending in the United States is and has been for many years 1/3 of the federal budget. Social programs make up miniscule part.”

I figured that meant I was being enlightened by a Canadian leftist. Sure enough I was correct!

Me-“Your budget was 253.2b... your population is appx. 3,472,700… divided “equally” that amounts to 72,911 per person.

Our budget was 3.8 trillion...our population is appx. 311,591,917... divided equally that amounts to 12,195 per person.

To not account for these things is misguided.

I was good enough to calculate this without deducting our military spending but I did deduct Canada’s!
Any chance you guys could pick up the military slack in NATO so we can bring the military spending down to your levels? In the mean time I will let those here know that Canada has a welcoming immigration policy. But I have to warn you…most of them only have a US public school UFT supplied education…”

Really we Americans love Canada. My friends from there come down and spend the winter in South Florida. They own homes here but can’t stay in them all year long…something about having to be back in their country to keep their benefits? Not sure what they mean by that…

I don’t get it…if you are Canadian and more enlightened wouldn’t you bother to check the most basic facts of how our countries differ first? Wouldn't a real liberal let us defend our constitution and inalienable rights instead of trying to deliberately mislead people here? Bad enough we have that going on here with DNC buying off the UFT....

Your "enlightened" Canadian got the overall premise of his argument incorrect.
Military spending in the United States is and has been for many years 1/3 of the federal budget. Social programs make up miniscule part.
This a common misunderstanding of most and an out-right lie for those who know better. The military budget comes from "discretionary spending" while social programs come from "non-discretionary spending". The liars don't count non-discretionary in their math because they consider it money that is already spent (but that's not true). The American liberal politicians only talk about cutting the military in the discretionary pot and the corrupt media lap dogs ignore the social programs. Every time you hear that military spending is the largest expense of the Federal Govt, you have to remember that they are not counting the whole budget, just the discretionary. The fact is that the military is the largest part of the discretionary spending. However, social programs exceed the military budget. Here's the real break-out for 2010:

National Defense (includes but not limited to the military) = 20.1% of Federal spending
Social Security = 20.4%
Medicare = 13.1%
Medicaid/CHIP = 8.1%
Low-income assistance = 5.3%

So running through the math quickly we can see that National defense is 20.1% or 1/5 of total spending and social programs account for 46.9% or almost 1/2 of total spending.

There we have yet another liberal lie destroyed with facts. (Source: http://www.factcheck.org/2011/07/fiscal-factcheck/)

Back to the Canadians though: I do wonder how much arrogance it takes for some of these guys to lecture Americans on our govt, politics and Constitution. Like you, I've known many great Canadians. However, in my case most of them are military. They aren't part of the liberal slave population that these bloggers/posters tend to be.

v/r,

[arnnatz]

They aren't part of the liberal slave population that these bloggers/posters tend to be.

but, but, but... crankytroll is canadian

[KALKAM]

Your "enlightened" Canadian got the overall premise of his argument incorrect.
Military spending in the United States is and has been for many years 1/3 of the federal budget. Social programs make up miniscule part.
This a common misunderstanding of most and an out-right lie for those who know better. The military budget comes from "discretionary spending" while social programs come from "non-discretionary spending". The liars don't count non-discretionary in their math because they consider it money that is already spent (but that's not true). The American liberal politicians only talk about cutting the military in the discretionary pot and the corrupt media lap dogs ignore the social programs. Every time you hear that military spending is the largest expense of the Federal Govt, you have to remember that they are not counting the whole budget, just the discretionary. The fact is that the military is the largest part of the discretionary spending. However, social programs exceed the military budget. Here's the real break-out for 2010:

National Defense (includes but not limited to the military) = 20.1% of Federal spending
Social Security = 20.4%
Medicare = 13.1%
Medicaid/CHIP = 8.1%
Low-income assistance = 5.3%

So running through the math quickly we can see that National defense is 20.1% or 1/5 of total spending and social programs account for 46.9% or almost 1/2 of total spending.

There we have yet another liberal lie destroyed with facts. (Source: http://www.factcheck.org/2011/07/fiscal-factcheck/)

Back to the Canadians though: I do wonder how much arrogance it takes for some of these guys to lecture Americans on our govt, politics and Constitution. Like you, I've known many great Canadians. However, in my case most of them are military. They aren't part of the liberal slave population that these bloggers/posters tend to be.

v/r,

But according to him our military is almost half our budget and it was backed up on wikipedia! Now what would I know about the US? I trust people to always get math correct when looking at another nation's affairs.

But I am confused...he says "half" is military spending...leaving us with about 6K per person vs. about 7k in Canada.

Do you think we could raise that number to be equal to Canada if we go after the 47-49.5% that aren't paying taxes?

[crankyhead]

I was good enough to calculate this without deducting our military spending but I did deduct Canada’s!

Shall I adjust it to reflect that? 7,291 per person...after military spending...

Which is it? Does your math include or ignore the DND budget?

[arnnatz]

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