Jesus was the first President of the United States.

Postby crankyhead » Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:37 am

Some recent headlines from the alternate universe of modern conservatism:

Rush Limbaugh claims the bad guy in the new Batman movie was named Bane to remind voters of Mitt Romney's controversial tenure at Bain Capital.

Michelle Bachmann, citing zero credible evidence, accuses a Muslim-American aide to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton of conspiring with the Muslim Brotherhood.

Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio's crack investigators announce that President Obama's long-form birth certificate is a fake.

In other words, it's just an average week down there in Crazy Town.

And that lends a certain context to a tidbit brought to national attention last week by Stephen Colbert of Comedy Central's "The Colbert Report." Meaning a plank from the 2012 platform of the Republican Party of Texas which, astonishingly enough, reads as follows: "We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student's fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority."

Holy wow.

That is, without a doubt, the most frightening sentence this side of a Stephen King novel.

The Texas GOP has set itself explicitly against teaching children to be critical thinkers. Never mind the creeping stupidization of this country, the growing dumbification of our children, our mounting rejection of, even contempt for, objective fact. Never mind educators who lament the inability of American children to think, to weigh conflicting paradigms, analyze competing arguments, to reason, ruminate, question and reach a thoughtful conclusion. Never mind that this promises the loss of our ability to compete in an ever more complex and technology-driven world.

Never mind. The Texas branch of one of our two major political parties opposes teaching critical thinking skills or anything that might challenge a child's "fixed beliefs." So presumably, if a child is of the "fixed belief" that Jesus was the first president of the United States or that Florida is an island in an ocean on the moon, educators ought not correct the little genius lest she (gasp!) change her "fixed belief," thereby undermining mom and dad.

That's just ... just ...

Holy wow.

For what it's worth, the Texas GOP says that language was not supposed to be in the platform. Spokesman Chris Elam says its inclusion "was an oversight on the subcommittee's part."
If that explanation leaves you cold, join the club. That such an asinine position was even under consideration is hardly comforting. And the fact that something so neon stupid escaped notice of both the subcommittee and the full platform committee suggests the Texas GOP could use a little critical thinking instruction itself.

Remember when Republicans were grown-ups?

Agree with them or not, you never thought of Bob Dole, George H.W. Bush, Gerald Ford, even Richard Nixon as less than serious, substantive adults, susceptible like all serious, substantive adults, to logic and reason. The party has since devolved. A toxic stew of faith-based politics, biased "news," and echo chamber punditry has reduced it to an anti-science, anti-reason, anti-intellect caricature of itself. Thoughtful conservatives -- thoughtful Americans -- ought to be alarmed.

How can you have a healthy democracy when a major party not only tolerates lunacy, but elevates it to positions of power? In what sane nation does someone like Rush Limbaugh have a mass audience, Michelle Bachmann an elected office, Joe Arpaio a badge?

Well, the Texas GOP just came out against critical thinking.

That explains a lot.

http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_2 ... r-thinking
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Re: Jesus was the first President of the United States.

Postby KALKAM » Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:20 am

crankyhead wrote:Some recent headlines from the alternate universe of modern conservatism:

crankyhead wrote: Rush Limbaugh claims the bad guy in the new Batman movie was named Bane to remind voters of Mitt Romney's controversial tenure at Bain Capital.

Ahhh…he’s just a political commentator…Howard Stern of politics…it’s not like he’s a major news paper like say the Daily News. It’s not like he just accused the President, GOP nominee, NRA, and all of us that know we have a right to defend ourselves as being responsible for mass murder.
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/bloo ... -1.1119049
That was actually the front page! Kids don’t just walk into a store to buy candy and see Rush’s show laying on display…

crankyhead wrote: Michelle Bachmann, citing zero credible evidence, accuses a Muslim-American aide to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton of conspiring with the Muslim Brotherhood.

Hillary needs to be more careful about making any comments that can be construed as supporting the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt…it happens…remember the criticism that Bush got for allowing the Saudis out of the US after 9/11?

crankyhead wrote: Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio's crack investigators announce that President Obama's long-form birth certificate is a fake.

People still believe Romney was calling the shots at BAIN after he left despite Obama supporters within Bain verifying that he was not. Sure he submitted documents but the explanation was as good and solid as Obama’s explanation for the typo of the bio he had to submit stating he was born in Kenya…

crankyhead wrote: In other words, it's just an average week down there in Crazy Town.

But fortunately this election is about runaway spending, the debt, and repealing Obamacare before it costs even more healthcare professionals their jobs, and forces the rest of us to pay more for our good coverage…public unions that endorsing the DNC are exempt of course.

crankyhead wrote: And that lends a certain context to a tidbit brought to national attention last week by Stephen Colbert of Comedy Central's "The Colbert Report." Meaning a plank from the 2012 platform of the Republican Party of Texas which, astonishingly enough, reads as follows: "We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student's fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority."

Will these CT skills be used in the classroom to pick apart the fact that all redistribution of wealth via the government is nothing more than theft? That is rewards bad decisions and penalized good decisions?
Will it address the corruption of the UFT, the indoctrination of students to vote for the party that awards them with sweeter contracts?
Will it address this?
http://www.nysun.com/new-york/dispositi ... ege/14604/

crankyhead wrote: Holy wow.

I know, I had that professor…she was a nut and completely unethical…she forced her class to watch “Fahrenheit 911” prior to the 2004 election…all those that missed class FAILED.

crankyhead wrote: That is, without a doubt, the most frightening sentence this side of a Stephen King novel.

That’s nothing…it’s rampant within our education system but it is a frightening reality…I

t was frightening that Pelosi thought the Holder contempt was really to keep him from preventing non-citizens from voting.

crankyhead wrote: The Texas GOP has set itself explicitly against teaching children to be critical thinkers. Never mind the creeping stupidization of this country, the growing dumbification of our children, our mounting rejection of, even contempt for, objective fact. Never mind educators who lament the inability of American children to think, to weigh conflicting paradigms, analyze competing arguments, to reason, ruminate, question and reach a thoughtful conclusion. Never mind that this promises the loss of our ability to compete in an ever more complex and technology-driven world.

We have been doing all those things…we suck at math and science…kids don’t know the constitution as well as you, a Canadian…BUT they know how to be critical of our American principles, how to be critical of someone keeping their assets…how to be critical of anyone that thinks theft is wrong…how to be critical of upholding the law…how to be critical of the Bill of Rights….how to be critical of the consequences of our defense treaties….although they NEVER learn about the treaties in the first place!

crankyhead wrote: Never mind. The Texas branch of one of our two major political parties opposes teaching critical thinking skills or anything that might challenge a child's "fixed beliefs." So presumably, if a child is of the "fixed belief" that Jesus was the first president of the United States or that Florida is an island in an ocean on the moon, educators ought not correct the little genius lest she (gasp!) change her "fixed belief," thereby undermining mom and dad.

My kids are taught fixed beliefs too…all people are born free, no government nor majority can deprive you of your individual rights…etc etc…you have heard this all from me already.
I send my kids to private school so I don’t have to worry some loser will try to brainwash them into thinking Marx was anything other than a very sick man.



crankyhead wrote: For what it's worth, the Texas GOP says that language was not supposed to be in the platform. Spokesman Chris Elam says its inclusion "was an oversight on the subcommittee's part."
If that explanation leaves you cold, join the club. That such an asinine position was even under consideration is hardly comforting. And the fact that something so neon stupid escaped notice of both the subcommittee and the full platform committee suggests the Texas GOP could use a little critical thinking instruction itself.

It’s a wonderful thing…I plan on hammering the UFT in NYC once I finish making sure everyone in Florida knows what Obamacare is going to do to them.

crankyhead wrote: Remember when Republicans were grown-ups?

We still are…grown-ups have to pay for what the dependent children want and need…and we still have to do that…

crankyhead wrote: Agree with them or not, you never thought of Bob Dole, George H.W. Bush, Gerald Ford, even Richard Nixon as less than serious, substantive adults, susceptible like all serious, substantive adults, to logic and reason. The party has since devolved. A toxic stew of faith-based politics, biased "news," and echo chamber punditry has reduced it to an anti-science, anti-reason, anti-intellect caricature of itself. Thoughtful conservatives -- thoughtful Americans -- ought to be alarmed.

But Obama is the president and a member of the DNC…is there anyone more idealistic, more insane, more of a failure?...other than Jimmy Carter I mean…

crankyhead wrote: How can you have a healthy democracy when a major party not only tolerates lunacy, but elevates it to positions of power? In what sane nation does someone like Rush Limbaugh have a mass audience, Michelle Bachmann an elected office, Joe Arpaio a badge?

Democracy is for collectivists….we are a constitutional republic that holds democratic elections. Clearly having a majority vote on everything is evil…how else are gay people supposed to have the rights they were born with?

crankyhead wrote: Well, the Texas GOP just came out against critical thinking.

Because “critical thinking” as taught in public schools is ONLY critical of one ideology…the American one.

crankyhead wrote: That explains a lot.

Yep…some people actually are sick of tax dollars and public schools being used to subvert American principles…it’s not like they are critical of socialism and the rest of the world.
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Re: Jesus was the first President of the United States.

Postby GrouchoMarxist » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:29 am

Damn, crank.... Move the radio about 10 feet away
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Re: Jesus was the first President of the United States.

Postby GrouchoMarxist » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:25 pm

Crank you can call a cirriculum anything you want... Doesn't make it so...

Besides... We don't want stupid kids like canadians
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Re: Jesus was the first President of the United States.

Postby Mooooooooooooooooooo » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:29 am

GrouchoMarxist wrote:Crank you can call a curriculum anything you want... Doesn't make it so...

Besides... We don't want stupid kids like Canadians



http://www.businessinsider.com/20-count ... 010-6?op=1



Some people are obviously the product of a poor educational system.....I corrected your spelling mistakes for you... :roll:
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Re: Jesus was the first President of the United States.

Postby KALKAM » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:22 pm

Mooooooooooooooooooo wrote:


Some people are obviously the product of a poor educational system.....I corrected your spelling mistakes for you... :roll:


We absolutely are...I will completely agree with you.

Math, the backbone of all logic, is a weakness.

The US constitution? Cranky answered a random question I posed to him correctly...one that the majority of US kids do not answer correctly.

Instead we teach kids to be "critical" of America, Capitalism, private ownership, individualism...but NEVER socialism, other nations (except any nation that is our loyal ally, we can rip them), collectivism....Ayn Rand is regarded as the inventor of a philosophy "for those stuck in the terrible 2's" but Marx is fine!

The UFT teaches Obamacare as a wonderful thing...but the UFT members are exempt!

Teachers in NYC are paid more than cops and firemen!

And we outspend you guys big time....

If you hire a genius for 300K a year for every 16 kids in public school in NYC (class size is usually around 29-32) and give each kid 100 bucks a day for food or whatever....it's cheaper than what we are paying now!

The backbone of the curriculum? Critical thinking....

Check our math and science scores...and compare them to yours.

But we are far better at you when it comes to leftist talking points...any kid that is failing can rattle off more left leaning talking points than any kid you know.


It's simple...the UFT gets more money and benefits than cops and firemen because they shape the minds of young voters!

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Re: Jesus was the first President of the United States.

Postby GrouchoMarxist » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:56 pm

Mooooooooooooooooooo wrote:
GrouchoMarxist wrote:Crank you can call a curriculum anything you want... Doesn't make it so...

Besides... We don't want stupid kids like Canadians



http://www.businessinsider.com/20-count ... 010-6?op=1



Some people are obviously the product of a poor educational system.....I corrected your spelling mistakes for you... :roll:



Some people need typos to make make intelligent conversation on internet forums....

BTW... We make politifakes here...
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