[KALKAM]

Article. VI.

All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Everyone has heard it…”the US is imperialist”…”The US thinks it’s the world’s police”…and whatever variation you can think of.

Every single time I hear it I want to find a public school teacher and bash their worthless, inept, and grossly overpaid heads in. Had they at any point actually taught the constitution instead of being critical of it this comment would never be uttered by anyone over the age of 10 as it clearly demonstartes a complete lack of understanding of the US Constitution and post WWII treaties.

Article VI paragraph 2 states and spells out that our treaties supersede ALL law. Our defense treaties following WWII placed us with the role of defending our Allies against any threat.


Some French interests are being threatened in Vietnam? No problem…we send in our troops while the French wag their fingers at us!

Ignore the FACT that France was the imperialist nation, and ignore that we have to protect their interests…just focus on blaming the US for being imperialist!
Some little part of Korea is being threatened by commie lowlives? No problem…we hang there too.

The best part is the limits placed on us…containment.

It means we “play for the tie”…NOT TO WIN…NOT TO PERMANENTLY RESOLVE THE PROBLEM...just hold the line for ummmmm, well how long have we been holding the line in Korea?

Sometimes it doesn’t work…like when you have an armed population like Vietnam did. Playing for a win would have been better…I would have wiped out the entire nation…I mean let’s face it….we have the ability to wipe out the planet in under 27 minutes…several times over…so what’s one little place on the map?

We have restraint placed on us…and that’s the only reason we have NOT WON A SINGLE WAR SINCE WWII.

OK so what happens when you want out of these treaties?

Well we tried that…in Iraq.

That entire war was to redeploy our troops OUT of Saudi Arabia without breaking the treaty.

And then there is the cricticism we get from people in nations we are obligated to protect....you think they ever thought about the fact that if anyone ever attacked them the US would immediately be at war with their attacker? Yep...attack one of our allies and you die.

It's also successful....how many years in recorded history have the European nations we have defense treaties with known peace among themselves?

How many of the years of peace are on a current streak that began after they signed on?



FWIW…none of this is my opinion….it’s all a fact. A fact that should have been taught in public school…spoken about on the news…whatever..
It is the constitution after all…and silly me to expect our tax dependent servants masquerading a "teachers" to be doing their damn jobs...

Too busy brainwashing kids to be critical of the US principles, promoting the ideals of the party that awards them sweeter contracts, and allows them exemption from CommieCare (while they promote it in the classroom), undermining whatever values parents instill in their kids, pretending they have a tough job like cops and firemen...

Go ahead...find a public school teacher and ask what Article VI paragraph 2 spells out...watch the blank stare...then ask if they teach kids to be critical of the wars we have had....

Imagine if public school teachers bothered to do their job and teach the US constitution and actual history...

[thatmfguy]

Imperialist, no. World police, yes.

[KALKAM]

Imperialist, no. World police, yes.

But we aren't...we don't enforce a global rule of law at all. We only get involved if it can impact any of our defense interests.


The UN has used the US to do some policing but ultimately China and Russia have veto power as well...and our sense of law is a bit different.

We are the strongest nation on Earth militarily...and I don't really want to see China step up and take the lead.

Although there are times I certainly entertain the idea of cutting a deal with China for Cold War part 2.

In the improved sequel we would simply let them have free reign over all regions that have been critical of our handling of the 1st cold war.

We tell them certain nations are off limits like Japan and Australia as well as our entire hemisphere.

Then we take space....

[crankyhead]

Then we take space....

Nazi Germany had a word for that. They called it Lebensraum.

[Bull]

Go ahead...find a public school teacher and ask what Article VI paragraph 2 spells out...watch the blank stare...then ask if they teach kids to be critical of the wars we have had....

Well there's the problem. I can't speak for every state in the country, but in my state, and around 15 years ago give or take .. Social Studies was an elective, U.S. History was taken in 10th grade for 2 semesters, and American Government was a one semester class counting for only one credit. The teachers don't make curriculum requirements, the board of education does and it's filled with administrators not teachers.

Furthermore, why would an english, math, or science teacher need to recite the constitution? That's not the subject they're teaching. If a student has a science question they're not going to ask the language arts teacher. Your argument should be that they need to teach govt and history like they do english, math, and science .. required courses and taken every year of school.

[KALKAM]

Then we take space....

Nazi Germany had a word for that. They called it Lebensraum.

Americans never say "outer-space" or even "earth orbit" anymore...

You didn't think I meant more land did you?

[KALKAM]

Go ahead...find a public school teacher and ask what Article VI paragraph 2 spells out...watch the blank stare...then ask if they teach kids to be critical of the wars we have had....

Well there's the problem. I can't speak for every state in the country, but in my state, and around 15 years ago give or take .. Social Studies was an elective, U.S. History was taken in 10th grade for 2 semesters, and American Government was a one semester class counting for only one credit. The teachers don't make curriculum requirements, the board of education does and it's filled with administrators not teachers.

Furthermore, why would an english, math, or science teacher need to recite the constitution? That's not the subject they're teaching. If a student has a science question they're not going to ask the language arts teacher. Your argument should be that they need to teach govt and history like they do english, math, and science .. required courses and taken every year of school.

English is what needs to be looked at...what you require kids to read is what matters. Consolidate...if they haven't read the constitution and understood it then go over it again before they are assigned "animal farm".

Math Science and literacy...what on earth is the rest of the day's schedule? The point of a public education is so our kids can be educated citizens...but not educated in the principles and rights of the nation they are citizens of?

Take the "gay marriage debate"...a purely objective and thorough education of the constitution would establish that we all have our personal opinions but we all have our rights that no majority can deprive us of. I am a firm believer this wouldn't be much of a debate anymore...

A kid might start thinking about being in the military...they should know war is not a matter of an opinion poll..or a vote. They should know the reality of things before the enlist.

Although I agree with you my point is more a matter of they don't want to teach...they want to be activists...and they select teachers now based on political disposition.

If you were a teacher would you push the party that will give you a raise on the soon to be new voters? Or would you teach them the constitution, math, science, and leave your personal beliefs at home where they belong?


I believe every kid should know the constitution by heart...everyone should know their rights. f*** Shakespeare.

[thatmfguy]

I agree with having a strong military as well as a people's militia. At the same time, we don't need to be "policing" the middle East and other places, even at the request of NATO or the UN ( which, in most cases, always lead to a US dominated force)

We don't need to be in 130 countries. We can't afford it, and frankly we are not the world's nanny.

We need to pay attention to what happened to the Roman empire under it's extravagant foreign policies, and take note before it happens to us.

[KALKAM]

I agree with having a strong military as well as a people's militia. At the same time, we don't need to be "policing" the middle East and other places, even at the request of NATO or the UN ( which, in most cases, always lead to a US dominated force)

We don't need to be in 130 countries. We can't afford it, and frankly we are not the world's nanny.

We need to pay attention to what happened to the Roman empire under it's extravagant foreign policies, and take note before it happens to us.

I agree with you...In my joking scenario of a second cold war with China I would completely let them have at the middle east...and any other region where "world opinion" is anti-US.

But breaking these treaties is harder than breaking a cell phone contract.

This should be a national discussion...an issue to run on...but it's not. Most people just don't understand this and I completely place all the blame on our public education...and the press.